SCOTUS Strikes Again!

I love Chik-Fil-A spicy chicken deluxe sandwiches. My GF refuses to set foot on any Chik-Fil-A property. Different strokes for different folks. She’s the LGBTQ activist and I’m the quiet girl who stands beside her and no longer buys from Chik-Fil-A (eh, my spicy chicken cravings usually came on Sunday’s anyway 🙄).

So as you can imagine, our opinions on the recent news that SCOTUS will be hearing another LGBTQ-related case are quite divergent.

Back in 2018 the Court decided that while a Colorado baker could not refuse to serve LGBTQ clientele, they could refuse to put two brides or two grooms on a cake. I agreed with this ruling and my GF strongly disagrees. In that case, the Court ruled that forcing the baker to create custom cake designs that were contrary to his/her religious views would violate their freedom of religion. I agree. But two gay guys come in to buy some cupcakes and they cannot be refused service. A bakery is a public accommodation.

So, now this new case … A Colorado web developer wants to expand her business into wedding websites but is concerned that she will land on the wrong side of Colorado’s public accommodation law. I think the same logic should apply: Two people come to you for a website, you cannot refuse service because of who they are (gay, straight, bi, black, Muslim, whatever). But if because of your personal beliefs you choose not to offer websites that show happy gay couples, then I don’t feel the law should force you to.

Oh, but what about black couples or biracial couples or minority religious couples? It gets messy, right?

It does, but then, the law is always messy. And in this case, if a baker or a photographer or a website designer decided that they only offered their creative services depicting white Anglo-Saxon protestant artistry, then I would hope that the market would crush them out of business but I would not empower the government to do so.

Your thoughts?

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TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP

it isnt about cake or photos. its about bending the knee.
apparently gays are incapable of simply employing another baker...... or photographer.

a anti gay business is a risky business model.. LESS MONEY FOR THEM..

nope. we gunna crush and make examples of ppl.

sarabee1995 · 26-30, F

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Partly you are right. People just sometimes cannot get out of their own way. But this applies on all sides of every issue. It's not about "gays" needing someone to "bend the knee".

If we are talking about the baker, would it really have killed him to put two grooms or two brides on top of the cake? Or a black bride and a white groom? Or a groom wearing a turban and a wife wearing a hijab?

While I do not want to give the government to power to force businesses to do these things, I would hope that the market, including all my straight friends, would do so.

cherokeepatti · 61-69, F

@sarabee1995 in a free market the customer is free to shop around if a business doesn’t offer something that they want. A business owner ought should be able to control their services in regard to creativity etc. Pretty sure there are many bakeries who will meet the customers request but no, let’s get a lawyer and sue their pants off of one who refuses to be dictated to and force everyone to cater to their demands.

sarabee1995 · 26-30, F

@cherokeepatti As I said, I agree with the 2018 ruling that stated that the baker did NOT have to put two brides or two grooms on top of a cake. I'm in agreement here. I don't want the government to have that kind of power.

However, I'm a HUGE free-market promoter and in this situation I would strongly advocate in the marketplace of ideas that the market shun this baker and drive them out of business. I oppose bigotry in all its forms but rarely see the government as the solution.

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@sarabee1995

in the marketplace of ideas that the market shun this baker and drive them out of business. I oppose bigotry

Sure you do. But you "strongly advocate" bullying and destroying anyone outside the woke chorus🙄

sarabee1995 · 26-30, F

@SW-User Nope. Not at all. I oppose bigotry and bias no matter which side of the political spectrum it comes from.