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Shootings in the U.S

It definitely seems to be the case that most, if not all, of the people responsible for mass shootings in the U.S are young men. Inevitably people always question "why" and "how" and try to devise of ways to stop it, with the most common suggestion being stricter gun laws. I can see some merit in that, but I don't think it is the answer. The first things that come to my mind when I think of this issue are the variables involved, of which there are many. I think of the people who have committed these shootings and what personally lead them to do that. It is impossible not to notice the patterns and commonalities which almost always seem to be present.

The most significant components seem to be an overwhelming dissatisfaction with everything and complete disdain for the rest of society.

These individuals have *probably* been bullied throughout their middle and high school years, or have at the very least been social outcasts. They may lack a good network of people to set them on the right path, or don't feel that they can tell anyone about their problems and even harbor feelings of animosity toward those closest to them. It seems they don't seek out proper relations with people, or don't utilize the relationships they do have to become better and more balanced individuals. In addition, they lack direction in life and likely don't have any ambitions or plans for their future. They have clearly come to see other people as worthless, and life as meaningless.

Also, from what I have read, the use of SSRI medication on adolescents seems to come with a risk of psychosis and can lead to violent behaviours.

I don't think there is an easy answer, and some of the things that I think would help contradict other ideas that I have about society and how kids should be able to function in school life. I have contemplated that kids should be encouraged to be more open and inclusive toward peers that don't necessarily fit in. However, this idea is impractical and I think that in many ways, the sooner we adjust to not always fitting in and being "liked" the better. Ultimately, these things can and should be used to make you a stronger and more resilient person. You shouldn't try to be liked by everyone and even if you're not friends with many (or perhaps any) people, you should persevere and focus on the things that you enjoy and that you want to do with your life. At the same time though, we should want to seek out relations with people we want to get to know more and feel we have something in common with. The way these young men could help themselves would be by trying to relate to other people and looking at the world around them, instead of focusing almost entirely on themselves and the way they feel. It's great to look inside oneself and to consider one's wishes when it is a matter of positive growth and development, but continually feeling sorry for yourself and blaming other people is a horrible and deeply unhelpful trait. These shooters seem to possess all the worst characteristics of teenage and adolescent angst and have manifested them in the most destructive and deadly way.
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Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
It is more of a psychological factor than it is a gun problem, there have been guns since the beginning of the nation and we did not used to do this. I think with everyone's face glued to a screen of some type instead of getting out and living life we breed defective young people. When I was a kid it was go go go, always out playing games, climbing trees, taking on some kind of juvenile challenge. People are not making anything of themselves then blame it on society. As such they get no attention but they watch the news and see the whole country obsess over a shooting and think, yea I could do that then everyone would pay attention to me. I think if we had compulsory service at 18 for everyone we would have less of this and people would make more of themselves.
@Subsumedpat Compulsory service is a bit extreme but the rest of what you said makes sense.
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
@SinlessOnslaught Compulsory service makes men of boys and teaches them teamwork and success at something.
@Subsumedpat I'm sure it does. I'm also sure other things give a similar experience.
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
@SinlessOnslaught Not that I can think of, nothing else is going to have the discipline and take away the choice of doing it or not. It can be opened up to doing things other use the military more in humanitarian actions here in country, maybe have it attached more to the national guard than the regular army. Life it too easy now.
@Subsumedpat Blue collar jobs
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@Subsumedpat I agree with some of your sentiments here but Sinless is right about the compulsory service. I get that it could lead to more purpose for these kind of people and that it would maybe *mostly* be a positive thing for them, but not everyone will be equipped for military service and it would probably be detrimental to other people who won't find it beneficial. We should all be given the choice to decide what we want to do when we leave school, without being forced into anything.

Also no amount of military service is going to teach them how to relate to other people. The issue is mostly with their lack of willingness to understand and empathize with the rest of society, as it often is with people who turn to murder.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@SW-User
no amount of military service is going to teach them how to relate to other people

I did not find that the case. Of course I served in an Army made up mostly of draftees, but it taught you to get along with, be a team with, have the backs of a very diverse group of people of varying races, educational level, and geographic origin. That said, the military does not have to be the sole option of compulsory service. Communities need a lot of help with schools, the homelessness, and other social problems. Of course it requires the taxpayers to pay not only for well-equipped supervisors who know how to organize and maintain discipline as well pay a stipend for those in compulsory service.
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
@SinlessOnslaught You can't make a young person take a blue collar job and act right.
@Subsumedpat Why not?
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@dancingtongue Fair enough. I understand what you're saying and appreciate the perspective of someone who has actually served in the military.

I think what can be agreed upon is that there is no one way to fix the problem, and that a lot of things really could and should be improved in society. Legislative action can only do so much and in this instance, I don't think it would make any real difference.
Subsumedpat · 36-40, M
@SinlessOnslaught same reason they won't do what they are supposed to now, that is the whole thing about the military things are not optional.