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Can an order be made to surrender your passport if you don't even have one?

Seems to be a quite common thing in court hearings where someone will be ordered to 'surrender' their passport, but if someone doesn't have a passport can such an order even be made?
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mksworld · 51-55, C
@Northwest That 'clavicular' mensmaxxing gross guy is accused of raping a 17 y/o at his parents house and has been ordered to surrender his passport. We just wondered if authorities actually check a person has one first before making such an order, or if it's just presumed everyone has one?
Northwest · M
@mksworld Braden Eric Peters is reported to have travelled internationally in the news. The Prosecution usually does discovery and ask for a passport, but it's largely an "honor" system, but the defense attorney could be disbarred if they claim there is no passport and that turned out to be true.
SunSetStrut · 46-50
@mksworld Oh d4mn, I didn't know this was about someone specific.
What I said though is true in general but with these rich b4stards, influencers, etc, we already know they never get more than a slap on the wrist for their crimes.
That is assuming the stories of their crimes are not fabricated or exaggerated.
SunSetStrut · 46-50
They cannot take something you do not even have.

One could be barred from getting a passport for whatever duration the situation lasts, well like say it is because of back taxes, you could be disallowed to even get one until the tax debt is settled.
@SunSetStrut You, Yes, Australian authorities can legally stop you from leaving the country for a holiday if you have significant unpaid government or tax debts, a bankrupt person can only leave with permission from the bankruptcy trustee, the Child Support Registrar can issue a Departure Prohibition Order (DPO) that legally stops you from leaving the country for a holiday
SunSetStrut · 46-50
@SirNedKelly Yeah it is the same way in America.

But yeah all I was saying was that they cannot take a passport that someone doesn't even have, but they can stop someone from getting one.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
It's probably a standard thing when someone is considered a flight risk, but not everyone has a passport. I don't (not since 2006 when my last one expired).
ArishMell · 70-79, M
The order can be made as a matter of course, but if the person has no passport it is obviously superfluous in that case.

 
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