I just thought I should throw this out there given that I was going to go to law school at one point.

Overturning Roe v Wade did not outlaw abortion in the United States. It simply meant that SCOTUS could not rule that abortion was a right that is covered in the constitution. All the rights and responsibilities not covered in the constitution are delegated to the state governments under the 10th amendment.

So in other words, protesting in front of SCOTUS and giving them facts to consider makes zero sense. They have performed their duty. Demonstrations should take place at state capitol buildings now. In all likelihood, though, most states will pass some kind of abortion measure which should end up on the ballots in the near future. In my opinion it needs to be a bipartisan effort in each of the states where the end result is a bill that prohibits abortion as a primary means of contraception but includes provisions for the health of the mother, cases of incest and rape, or where the mother can show that other methods of contraception have failed or using them would result in health complications.

This is not a "war on women", just a court doing what a court is supposed to do. No one is coming for gay marriage next, divorce attorneys make too much money off of it and money is what drives this country forward.

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MistyCee

With all due respect, Supreme Court Justices have a great deal of deference I'm terms of carrying out their duties, but a large portion of those folks who have gone to law school feel like the last couple of opinions by these Justices are really pushing the edges of what that deference should allow, or realistically, the value of the oath they swore.

I'm not going to defend protests, and I even get the Dobbs thing, but the rationale they used, a one sided historical analysis, completely devoid of public policy or concerns is really troubling. I think the Bruin decision is far worse, tbh, because I get the States rights thing, but instead of telling people not to protest or telling them where to protest, i'd tell them what they should be protesting about.

This "Originalism" thing was really cute as a method of interpretation, but Thomas just illustrated how taking Scalia's ideas out of context can lead to absurd results.

I like the idea of a Court as a balance to Congress and the Legislature, but an intellectually dishonest court, which this one is, I think, is worth protesting, in a proper place.

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Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M

@hippyjoe1955 🤔

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Fukfacewillie There have been a lot of hearings over the years so which one are you referring to? I still have no idea who Long Dong is. Kinda hard to have a conversation with someone who speaks his own language.

MistyCee

@TexChik It was far uglier for Anita Thomas the way I remember it.

Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M

Dozens of rights aren't in the Constitution because it needs to be interpreted. The Court just reaffirmed Miranda Rights, so you are against that, too? Where does it say the right for individuals to own guns? That was only a few years ago in Heller. Where does it say schools can't be segregated? Interracial marriage?

Long Dong stated he's going after Birth Control and Gay Marriage next.

sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M

@Fukfacewillie The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

Overturning Roe v Wade did not outlaw abortion in the United States. It simply meant that SCOTUS could not rule that abortion was a right that is covered in the constitution.

And in 30 states, that's basically the same damn thing, because they were waiting for permission to outlaw it.

This is not a "war on women"...

Beg to differ. Millions of women now have to go to a different state to get basic health care, and they still run the risk of being prosecuted for murder.

No one is coming for gay marriage next...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/06/24/clarence-thomas-court-should-reconsider-gay-marriage-birth-control-decisions-next-after-overturning-roe/amp/

You keep lining up the lies, I'll keep the truth bombs coming.

MrSmooTh · 31-35, M

@LordShadowfire Well honestly I hope you're right. I agree with the other side. Marriage should be about creating children. And noone should go out and have unprotected sex with the notion in mind that they can just get an abortion. Grow up and act right. The 1960s are over and you lost.

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