My stepfather was just like this. He was a redneck bigot that threatened me and attacked my culture and spirituality and calls it bronze age BS, hold up I'm Native American and this guy brought the flashbacks back to me.
My stepfather was a redneck bigot and he's mostly a secular person. I can't stand both religious bigots and secular bigots that attack people and don't have respect.
@Peaceandnamaste Libertarians themselves argue that they want little government interventions (no welfare for example) and individual freedom but in reality it's about being free to exploit others and higher valuing selfish and greedy behaviour. This ideology results in Social Darwinism that's why he kinda defended the genocide of indigenious people under the post you linked.
@Peaceandnamaste he's a "libertarian", meaning the modern definition, which basically means they're in favour of unbridled greed. Historically libertarian referred to people like me, i.e Anarcho-Communists. The right stole the term.
@Peaceandnamaste to add to this btw, my dad's side is indigenous Mexican (Nahua). You get indigestion forms of Anarcho-Communism like Magonism which comes from the Zapotec philosopher Ricardo Flores Magon.
@basilfawlty89 oof, yeah. I fell into libertarianism for a time. It looks good on the surface. But then I went to some meetups and they would talk about is taxes and how Obama wasn't a US citizen... fortunately I've also come to realize that free markets are a terrible idea when combined with private property rights to limited natural resources.
@Peaceandnamaste it's basically Republicans who are okay with weed. A lot of the written philosophy is good on social issues, but the people that presently make up the party are mostly folks who hate taxes and business regulations.
On some social issues they can actually be worse. For example: they believe the solution to racism is to pretend race doesn't exist. Which is a great end goal in my opinion. But no amount of flowery language or idealism is going to address the fact that even if every person stopped being racist tomorrow we have generations worth of disenfranchisement to catch up with. We can't "stop seeing race" until we have people back on even footing.
@Peaceandnamaste when you keep people feeling poor and desperate they are more likely to retreat into those zones of thoughtlessness. It's hard to expend energy thinking about the long term prosperity of planet and society if you are one bad day away from being homeless.
I think people overestimate the greed of humanity because we've built systems where fulfilling greed determines survival and status. We don't have to live this way, and I believe old native traditions and lifestyles are evidence of that. I believe a could revisit modern life with the indigenous philosophies and have a happier and healthier society that utilizes our technological prowess for sustainability rather than unlimited growth.
@ViciDraco I knew something was up when redredred bashed simple lifestyles like farming and living off the land like all people including indigenous people did in the past. He claim it was primitive and praised progress and industrialization that destroys the environment.
@ViciDraco I believe indigenious societies can teach us a lot about how we can structure society better - with a stronger emphasis on community and looking out for each other, without profit incentieve and much smaller hierarchies. Especially in regards of the way we treat and engage with our environment.
@Peaceandnamaste I believe we can balance those. I don't think living off the land is primitive, though people can simplify it a lot if they choose.
I am in favor of progress and industrialization. I just think they are aimed in the wrong direction. If we built things with longevity and maintainability in mind it would be far less destructive. The problem with modern industrialization is the need to grow profit. If a company built refrigerators to last two hundred years, they would eventually run out of people who need refrigerators. That would be amazing for society, but it's very bad for business.
@Human1000 we'll have to see how the republican embracing of far authoritarian goes with libertarians. Trumpian fascist leanings did kind of unease some of them, but most still viewed him as the lesser of two evils. If we see DeDantis in there it will be interesting to see what they do, as DeDantis is also very authoritarian but fits into a neater more presentable package. I'm guessing they will favor him, because taxation is somehow one of the greatest evils in their minds and Republicans play to that.
