Bill1372 · 51-55, M
She does make a great point
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Viper · M
@Mak03 Yeah, but if the unborn child doesn't die, I'm not sure they count it as a person.
But if there is no attack on it, it doesn't count as a person in any law that I'm aware of in the US.
@ozgirl512 written laws in the US do not have to conform... it of course is helpful and smart when they do... But they don't have to, and then it goes to judges to interpret the laws.
As I've said, I don't know of any law, where an unborn baby, counts as a person, unless the mother/unborn baby is either violently attacked or gets into an accident clearly caused by someone else.
When no violence or accidents occur, an unborn baby is not considered a person by any US law I've seen yet.
Though, I do feel like clearly pregnant women should be allowed in HOV I'm case they have an emergency, that hopefully they can get to where they need to get to faster, or help can get to them.
Just saying, CLEARLY that is not the current law... and her claims seems more like an excuse than her confusing some other law, as the other laws (that I'm aware of) don't state her believes either.
But if there is no attack on it, it doesn't count as a person in any law that I'm aware of in the US.
@ozgirl512 written laws in the US do not have to conform... it of course is helpful and smart when they do... But they don't have to, and then it goes to judges to interpret the laws.
As I've said, I don't know of any law, where an unborn baby, counts as a person, unless the mother/unborn baby is either violently attacked or gets into an accident clearly caused by someone else.
When no violence or accidents occur, an unborn baby is not considered a person by any US law I've seen yet.
Though, I do feel like clearly pregnant women should be allowed in HOV I'm case they have an emergency, that hopefully they can get to where they need to get to faster, or help can get to them.
Just saying, CLEARLY that is not the current law... and her claims seems more like an excuse than her confusing some other law, as the other laws (that I'm aware of) don't state her believes either.
Ontheroad · M
Hmmm, interesting idea but I see a Constitutional fight in the offering. Rights of citizens are defined (14th Amendment) as those who are "born" citizens. Sort of follows that you have to be born to count as a passenger.
JonLosAngeles66 · M
A new cottage industry - funerals for miscarriages.
LeopoldBloom · M
@JonLosAngeles66 It’s already been proposed.
DrawntoaDistance · M
Multi protein lane lol
ozgirl512 · 31-35, F
@DrawntoaDistance bloody Auto correct lol!
justanothername · 51-55, M
By that lose argument you could argue that bodily organs are also passengers in a vehicle which therefore would give every person the right up drive their vehicle in the HOV lane.
If you think that argument sounds ridiculous have a look at the first argument.
If you think that argument sounds ridiculous have a look at the first argument.
Grateful4you · M
They aren't "another person" until the intake of the first breath.
NaturalBeautyQueen · 41-45, F
They really dug themselves in a hole, this time. I’m curious about the ending results.
ozgirl512 · 31-35, F
@Viper can't help you there... But i suspect the detail will be in the anti abortion law... If for example, performing an abortion is considered as murder, then the foetus would suggest to be being treated as a person....i just made that up as an example, i don't know what the law actually states
Viper · M
What?
If unborn babies are persons, does that mean males jerking off is murder? It kills the sperm which are basically unborn babies.
Different state, but HOV is to have more than one seat taken up, which is not done with being present and Cops can check to see if you are pregnant, or not... one could easily lie about it.
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5151368
If unborn babies are persons, does that mean males jerking off is murder? It kills the sperm which are basically unborn babies.
Different state, but HOV is to have more than one seat taken up, which is not done with being present and Cops can check to see if you are pregnant, or not... one could easily lie about it.
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5151368
aboveaverageaveragejoe · 51-55, M
The HOV lane should specify that it driver plus one passenger that takes up a different seat.
CorvusBlackthorne · 100+, M
Hoist by their own petard.
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