Charity · 70-79
1) They didn't go into Libya to control the country - didn't Trump say it would be under us authority
Trump says US now in control of Venezuela situation after developments | Fox News https://share.google/6GIH5lFujnDJzIAli
2) They had nothing to gain, but Trump does, Venezuela oil reserve said to be number one
Trump says US is taking control of Venezuela’s oil reserves. Here’s what it means | CNN Business https://share.google/X5UOYPicSbabvVvUH
TWO very huge differences
And it's no joke!
Trump says US now in control of Venezuela situation after developments | Fox News https://share.google/6GIH5lFujnDJzIAli
2) They had nothing to gain, but Trump does, Venezuela oil reserve said to be number one
Trump says US is taking control of Venezuela’s oil reserves. Here’s what it means | CNN Business https://share.google/X5UOYPicSbabvVvUH
TWO very huge differences
And it's no joke!
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Charity Yes. Most of that is corroborating what I said. The part you missed is that those US refineries are busy processing US oil from US wells.. You would be asking them to lose money by stopping their own production..😷
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Charity smashing pan African economic independence was the main thing, as they clearly said.
But Americans agreed not to understand anything political about themselves, it's unheard of to know what Hillary and Obama said or did if it's not about "Orange Man bad me good!".
But Americans agreed not to understand anything political about themselves, it's unheard of to know what Hillary and Obama said or did if it's not about "Orange Man bad me good!".
Charity · 70-79
@whowasthatmaskedman
No I didn't miss it.
With the 60 to 70 refineries in the Gulf waters they are refining oil from Venezuela even as I write. Much of the Gulf Coast in Texas are refineries, hard to find fishing spots like we used to.
I wonder why America still imports 70 to 80% of its oil? ...............How much oil does America have in reserve, supposedly ranking one beating Saudi Arabia as of 2023?.............. More oil under American control. And I'm quite sure the oil refineries in the Gulf can find a way to work in MORE oil from Venezuela which they already process. And maybe America can stockpile more oil.
https://profession.americangeosciences.org/society/intersections/faq/how-much-oil-does-us-export-and-import/
Reports I read say that the US would benefit from having Venezuelan oil - they name increased efficiency for US oil refineries in the Gulf / downward pressure on gasoline prices / business opportunities for American oil companies / economics / trade influence / energy security / aide the people of Venezuela.
If oil companies are as greedy concerning money as they appear to be, they will spend the money, and with the Trump administration behind them they just might. After all Trump gives tax cuts to the rich / companies. Trump will bail you out if his plan fails, like he did the farmers, and may do again.
Key red state shapes US gas prices as Venezuelan oil hits the market | Fox News https://share.google/srhK9Ve7sxqUEYDw7
Why Venezuela's oil matters to the U.S. | PBS News https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/why-the-us-has-designs-on-venezuelas-oil#:~:text=In%20the%20short%20term%2C%20the,other%20grades%2C%22%20Book%20said.
How U.S. Control of Venezuelan Oil Could Redefine the World Order - StoneTurn https://share.google/AOIyDUx2WtG5mf10B
I could be wrong, I could be right and as long as I've been around oil has always equaled money.
No I didn't miss it.
With the 60 to 70 refineries in the Gulf waters they are refining oil from Venezuela even as I write. Much of the Gulf Coast in Texas are refineries, hard to find fishing spots like we used to.
I wonder why America still imports 70 to 80% of its oil? ...............How much oil does America have in reserve, supposedly ranking one beating Saudi Arabia as of 2023?.............. More oil under American control. And I'm quite sure the oil refineries in the Gulf can find a way to work in MORE oil from Venezuela which they already process. And maybe America can stockpile more oil.
https://profession.americangeosciences.org/society/intersections/faq/how-much-oil-does-us-export-and-import/
Reports I read say that the US would benefit from having Venezuelan oil - they name increased efficiency for US oil refineries in the Gulf / downward pressure on gasoline prices / business opportunities for American oil companies / economics / trade influence / energy security / aide the people of Venezuela.
If oil companies are as greedy concerning money as they appear to be, they will spend the money, and with the Trump administration behind them they just might. After all Trump gives tax cuts to the rich / companies. Trump will bail you out if his plan fails, like he did the farmers, and may do again.
Key red state shapes US gas prices as Venezuelan oil hits the market | Fox News https://share.google/srhK9Ve7sxqUEYDw7
Why Venezuela's oil matters to the U.S. | PBS News https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/why-the-us-has-designs-on-venezuelas-oil#:~:text=In%20the%20short%20term%2C%20the,other%20grades%2C%22%20Book%20said.
How U.S. Control of Venezuelan Oil Could Redefine the World Order - StoneTurn https://share.google/AOIyDUx2WtG5mf10B
I could be wrong, I could be right and as long as I've been around oil has always equaled money.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Charity We agree that oil equates money. Its just not that simple.. But the reason America imports so much oil is that you cant run a vehicle of the stuff America produces. Like the Venezuela oil, its too thick and dirty. It has to have lighter, "sweeter" oil added. The Canadian oil was popular for that, as is the middle east oil. I havent looked into the US strategic reserve. I know its been tapped into at times. But with oil as cheap as it is right now, it seems logical to keep it topped up. Not that this is guaranteed under the current administration.
As for your comment about more oil meaning lower prices.. That doesnt have a great record in the US. Often more supply means cheaper supply to the oil companies and more profit for them..😷
As for your comment about more oil meaning lower prices.. That doesnt have a great record in the US. Often more supply means cheaper supply to the oil companies and more profit for them..😷
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Charity the money would help bribe Venezuelan people to be more conservative.
MaBalzEsHari · M
For one thing Hillary never did anything to Libya. When was she president again? I forgot.
The difference between trump and Venezuela and Obama bombing Libya?
1. Obama had full permission of Congress to take military action action against Libya. And was part part of a UN task force in the bombing of Libya.
Trump decided as dictator to bypass Congress and attack another country on his own say so. Unconstitutional.
2. Obama never cut a deal with our oil companies in advance of his military operation for them to get ready to steal all of Libya's natural resources that he would PERSONALLY sell and take charge of the money.
trump did EXACTLY that.
3. On 19 March 2011, a NATO-led coalition began a military intervention into the ongoing Libyan Civil War to implement United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 (UNSCR 1973). The UN Security Council passed the resolution with the stated intent to have "an immediate ceasefire in Libya, including an end to the current attacks against civilians, which it said might constitute 'crimes against humanity' .The coalition members were Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Italy, Norway, Qatar, Spain, UK and US.
trump lied about a "cartel" Maduro was head of..........admitted it when forced to by Maduro's attorneys. He attacked on his own..............kidnapped a sitting president and his wife on trumped up drug charges.........and did it all so he could steal Venezuela's oil and natural resources...ie. gold and any thing that could be mined and stolen in Venezuela for the enrichment of our oil compaines.............as trump promised them he would do if they gave him personally a billion dollars during his 2024 campaign.
Ya know when you look at...........there is nothing but differences of what was done by trump vs Obama. One attack was a NATO authorized military action.....one was done out of pure corruption and greed.
Answer your question??
The difference between trump and Venezuela and Obama bombing Libya?
1. Obama had full permission of Congress to take military action action against Libya. And was part part of a UN task force in the bombing of Libya.
Trump decided as dictator to bypass Congress and attack another country on his own say so. Unconstitutional.
2. Obama never cut a deal with our oil companies in advance of his military operation for them to get ready to steal all of Libya's natural resources that he would PERSONALLY sell and take charge of the money.
trump did EXACTLY that.
3. On 19 March 2011, a NATO-led coalition began a military intervention into the ongoing Libyan Civil War to implement United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 (UNSCR 1973). The UN Security Council passed the resolution with the stated intent to have "an immediate ceasefire in Libya, including an end to the current attacks against civilians, which it said might constitute 'crimes against humanity' .The coalition members were Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Italy, Norway, Qatar, Spain, UK and US.
trump lied about a "cartel" Maduro was head of..........admitted it when forced to by Maduro's attorneys. He attacked on his own..............kidnapped a sitting president and his wife on trumped up drug charges.........and did it all so he could steal Venezuela's oil and natural resources...ie. gold and any thing that could be mined and stolen in Venezuela for the enrichment of our oil compaines.............as trump promised them he would do if they gave him personally a billion dollars during his 2024 campaign.
Ya know when you look at...........there is nothing but differences of what was done by trump vs Obama. One attack was a NATO authorized military action.....one was done out of pure corruption and greed.
Answer your question??
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@MaBalzEsHarievil should be acknowledged and resisted. Even for Christians. American people don't admit that they killed. You're bipartisanly at war and you call us Christian socialists for peace your "enemy within"- since before Anita Bryant. Carry on. There's nothing we can say to make you even think about stopping the ecocide and genocide or the wars for money. Nothing.
You win. I'm someone you will only ever know as hateful! We can both live with that, as ever.
You win. I'm someone you will only ever know as hateful! We can both live with that, as ever.
MaBalzEsHari · M
@Roundandroundwego You seem to be a little on the mentally ill side.........and I seem to be enabling you. Bad me.
Don't be like a bee at a picnic. take a pill............chill out and if that don't get it..........take two pills. Bye.
Don't be like a bee at a picnic. take a pill............chill out and if that don't get it..........take two pills. Bye.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@MaBalzEsHari right. Diagnosis for the people who react against fascists is typical of your people. We're aware you want to build big huge detention centers, call us crazy and make some money off us! Like you did before. Like you always do!
Get an education and go to confession. Bye!!! Dismissed as rejected!
Get an education and go to confession. Bye!!! Dismissed as rejected!
EBSVC · 41-45, T
No no no see this time regime change is actually going to work, right? 🙃