It is normal for religions to be influenced by the surrounding cultural environment & previous faiths. Like in Islam the pilgrimage dates back to the time of Abraham. Even in the pre-Islamic era أيام الجاهلية they used to go around the Kaaba. Christianity too was influenced by other cultures but mostly in terms of the symbolic aspects of celebrations. Christmas carries a profound spiritual significance.
I knew it was partly a pagen thing with the christmas tree, but was not aware the romans set the date. Festival Dies Natalis Solis Invicti” Which was basically a Roman festival on December 25th where Roman’s celebrated the sun ☀god . interesting.
@bookerdana I think you missed the entire point of what I said haha
I said something very simple Christmas isn’t mentioned in the Bible There is a consensus among scholars that Jesus and his followers never did celebrate it because Christmas was ordained by Romans and Romans weren’t Christian during the time when Jesus was alive On top of that How you celebrate it (like the steps and traditions ) Are not mentioned in the Bible either So how is it Bible/ religion based for u to claim that it is a holiday that stems from bible / Christianity ?
how did u you come up with those traditions? You didn’t… Candle lightening Feasts Carrol singing Santa clause Tree decoration and lightening Etc etc
Are all rooted in pre Christian winter solstice traditions and mythology The Romans who started the celebration of something called Christmas all they did is adapt their former pagan festivals / holidays into Christianity and give it a new name.
So can you explain to me how am I wrong when I said that Europeans would have most likely ended up celebrating something similar to Christmas today even if they never encountered Christianity because they already did have something similar to it before they did encounter Christianity ? I feel like this is common sense and it doesn’t debunk ur religion at all.
Honestly this is not even worth such long discussions over So nvm and have a happy Christmas 🌸💕
As for Hanukkah I haven’t done my research on it so frankly I don’t know its origin cuz this post for now is about Christmas
this dude might help you @LeopoldBloom cuz he’s a Jew
@Moon3624 I agree He was probably born in the spring..many churches forbid the celebration of Christmas in the U.S. ,the old Satan Clause thing but Saint Nicholas was real enough..no suit or reindeer
@Moon3624 “When shepherds watched their flocks by night” would have been in the spring.
The most likely explanation was that Jesus was a real person who, like many others, preached in 1st century Judea and was executed by the Romans. After his death, his followers embellished his legend leading to the character we know today.
@LeopoldBloom the Quran (chapter 19) has a different narrative to the story of Mary and Jesus . That when she got into labour She went to a remote place to avoid people And Within the story she shakes a trunk of Palm tree and ripe dates were dropped upon her If she was outside and there were dates too It would indicate spring - summer time rather than winter for sure
