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The UK...and Canada soon to follow. US CITIZENS!!!! PLEASE THINK before you vote for "Medicare For ALL".

CANADA

"Based on national data per 100,000 residents, Canada's rate of medical assistance in dying (MAID) is higher than the total U.S. firearm fatality rate, though the total count of deaths is higher in the U.S. due to its larger population.
• Canada Euthanasia (MAID) Rate: In 2024, Canada recorded 16,499 MAID deaths, which translates to a rate of approximately 40.24 per 100,000 residents (or roughly 5.1% of all deaths nationwide).
• U.S. Firearm Fatality Rate: In 2024, the United States recorded 44,447 total gun deaths (including suicides, homicides, and accidents), which translates to a rate of approximately 13.07 per 100,000 residents." Pew Research

"Socio-Economic Pressures

• Poverty and Housing Deficiencies: Investigations and reports have highlighted cases where individuals sought or received MAiD not strictly due to a terminal medical prognosis, but because of severe poverty, a lack of affordable housing, or social isolation. National Institute of Health.
• Healthcare Strain: Long waitlists for specialists, mental health care, and adequate home-care or palliative support have led some vulnerable patients to view MAiD as a faster alternative to enduring systemic shortfalls or feeling like a "burden" on family members." The Guardian

THE U.K.

Here is an article WRITTEN by a practicing physician in Essex:


"Dr Copperfield is fed up with the dizzying circus that is accessing care in the NHS, and the position in which it leaves GPs

So proud of the NHS this week. And I’m sure you were, too, when you heard the widely reported story of how superbly the service dealt with a patient in Telford seeking an appointment with her GP. Her surgery was fully booked, so she was signposted to 111, who called paramedics, who advised she needed a GP appointment, which they booked. That’s how patient pathways work. That’s seamless care. That’s a user journey that could only have been bettered if that final GP appointment had been unavailable, resulting in a return ticket via 111 and another ambulance. That would have been the value-for-money scenic route.

Of course, going round in circles is not limited to accessing the NHS. Once inside, the process is just as dizzying. Hence my new, severely depressed patient this week, who has gone from psychiatric pillar to post with involvement from 111 option 2, First Response Team, Mental Health Crisis Team, the Urgent Care Department, A&E, a half-way house sanctuary and an admissions-avoidance team. Everyone, in fact, except an actual psychiatrist. His mental health may be not better, but he’s at least got to know the area.


And I find the same when I’m trying to access care for patients myself. For example, when confronted by the acute-on-chronic elderly care crisis known technically as ‘gone off her legs’, I have a bewildering number of choices. There’s the urgent elderly care helpline. A frailty clinic (actual). A frailty clinic (virtual). An urgent community response team. An emergency response team. The community nursing service. An acute visiting service. And so on.

Somehow, at some point, someone thought it would be a great idea to deconstruct NHS services into tiny silos. These give a semblance of specific and appropriate care, but the reality is the opposite. Because the characteristics they share include inaccessibility, facelessness, obstructive and ever-changing referral criteria, a predilection for screening, assessing and signposting over actually treating, and an inability or unwillingness to communicate with the other cogs in the machine. And, most of all, a complete aversion to ‘owning the problem’: once patients are sucked into this vortex, there is no way of knowing who, if anyone, is making, or willing to make, definitive management decisions.

Except, of course, those sat in the middle of this dysfunctional merry-go-round: that’s us GPs, who are left to make sense of it all.

Welcome to our great NHS! I say welcome, but actually, you might just want to walk around it a few times and go home.

Dr Tony Copperfield is a GP in Essex "


https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/views/copperfield/the-nhs-is-circling-the-drain-the-care-merry-go-round-is-exasperating/

Additionally, the UK is LOSING 50% of all its newly trained DOCTORS!!!

UK citizens must pay for their education, to the tune of $230,000 per student...and then they up and LEAVE and go to practice medicine where they can actually make some decent money!


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/07/04/nhs-brain-drain-abroad-at-record-high/
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the price of everything triples and the governemnt collects a big fat tax check..

in australia. near half the country is on the NDIS tit.. guess we're never voting ourselves out of it...

either as recipiants or social care workers

when the unemployed and incapable outnumber the tax payers...

FREEBIES..
Gibbon · 70-79, M
We've been saying this for years. No one believes us. It's going to be a serious downgrade across the board.
4meAndyou · F
@Gibbon 225,000,000 Americans will LOSE their private health care, also...AND they will be forced onto a SIMILAR sinking ship. I think we should call it TITANIC HEALTH CARE.
Dan193 · 31-35, M
Is that your opinion or just posting stuff u found online?
Dan193 · 31-35, M
@Dan193 also I googled it, med school in uk is 10k a year not 230k. Maybe for foregners adds up to that, since it says 30k to 70k for foreigners a year.
4meAndyou · F
@Dan193 ALL my paragraphs are cited with their source.
4meAndyou · F
@Dan193 Gemini, on Google, posts a warning about relying on it's information, as it MIGHT be wrong.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
The Daily Telegraph is a right wing paper which does not reflect mainstream UK thinking about the NHS.

the UK is LOSING 50% of all its newly trained DOCTORS

KIndly tell us where you found this statistic. @Dan193 has corrected the training costs.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@4meAndyou That report was ten years ago, and a proposal, not a concrete policy.

I don't know if it became or influenced policy but we do have a loan system for university fees generally; with repayments not levvied until earning over a certain salary threshold - £35000 I think.

The NHS is not perfect. No humanly-made system ever is, but if it were not for the NHS (paid for via my and everyones else's taxes) I would now be unable to walk without artificial aids, would have no teeth, would be chronically ill, unable to drive (short-sighted) and not knowing if certain other things are the start of serious disease or just common aging effects. I'd not be reasonably fit for my age - I may even be dead.

I know some hard-Right wing Americans think that Communist, but they are totally wrong.

In 2016, in his first attempt at running the USA, President Trump stated Britain should give the NHS to American commerce. He was soon put right on that, from across the political spectrum!
4meAndyou · F
@FreddieUK It's not true that only wealthy kids in the USA can become doctors. MOST of them are so smart they earn scholarships from their university, and ALL of them take out loans, which they repay for years and years. Just like other college students. The upside for them is that they make so much money it's less of a hardship.
4meAndyou · F
@ArishMell I don't believe the NHS is a communist institution. I just don't want it HERE,

 
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