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Zaphod42 · 51-55, M
That’s impossible to actually imagine. Even when you picture “nothing” in your mind, you picture an absence of anything in a void that is still something 🤷♂️
Zaphod42 · 51-55, M
@sree251 Thank you! That was a treat! To be fair though, I’m sure I was just regurgitating something I once heard Tyson, Cox, Kaku or someone like that say in a video I was listening to while gaming. “Nothing” is a difficult thing for me to come to terms with. I can accept that even in a perfect void, absent of even the strangest or most charming of quarks, the scaffolding of space-time still exists., but the universe expanding out into “nothing” is a mind bender. It’s easier for me to think that the universe as we know it is the result of a quantum vacuum decay event overwriting an older higher energy universe, that dark energy is the conversion of that higher energy state into the expansion rate of the decay border and dark matter as the possible ashes of the process. I’m probably wrong, but it’s still less taxing on my brain than trying to consider “nothing”. 🤷♂️
redredred · M
People sometimes ask what the Big Bang exploded into. That’s the actual point, there was nothing. The Big Bang was the expansion of everything, space included.
Nothing is the total absence of all measurable quantities and qualities including location.
Nothing is the total absence of all measurable quantities and qualities including location.
Well yeah even an empty void is something. I guess it would be the absent of any dimensions. I guess the best way to describe it would be where you were before you were born.
ElRengo · 70-79, M
It deppends on what means "nothing".
If about the Universe as researched by Science, our view of it began to change with the Einstenian Relativity.
The old philosophical / "common sense" concept of space as an empty geometrical container of stuff (or else supposed to be "nothingness") felt by then.
If about the Universe as researched by Science, our view of it began to change with the Einstenian Relativity.
The old philosophical / "common sense" concept of space as an empty geometrical container of stuff (or else supposed to be "nothingness") felt by then.
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SlaveEt · 36-40, F
It's a concept that doesn't really exist like one or zero. Waaay beyond my ability to explain it but there you go, something else to ponder😉
sree251 · 41-45, M
@zeggle You said: "Don't confuse Physics with Philosophy then."
Why do you make this comment in response to my statement below:
A non-existent concept? Wow, this is more mind-boggling to grasp than "Nothingness".
If I were to rephrase my statement above in mathematical terms to test its logical integrity, I get:
A Y (non-existent concept)? Wow, this is more mind-boggling to grasp than X (Nothingness).
The above rephrased statement is quite clear. It is plain straight thinking. Where is the confusion in terms of Physics and Philosophy?
Why do you make this comment in response to my statement below:
A non-existent concept? Wow, this is more mind-boggling to grasp than "Nothingness".
If I were to rephrase my statement above in mathematical terms to test its logical integrity, I get:
A Y (non-existent concept)? Wow, this is more mind-boggling to grasp than X (Nothingness).
The above rephrased statement is quite clear. It is plain straight thinking. Where is the confusion in terms of Physics and Philosophy?
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
There are some brilliant explanations on YouTube how modern physics thinking suggests that what we call 'The vacuum of space' doesn't actually exist.
It's defined as a vacuum simply because it doesn't contain what we call air.
But it has all the constituents of air !
It's defined as a vacuum simply because it doesn't contain what we call air.
But it has all the constituents of air !
meJess · F
Absence is quantifiable concept when applied to everyday items. Nothingness is total absence so should be quantifiable but only by deduction given there would be no tangible evidence.
ABCDEF7 · M
Those who practice the true meditation, understands it well.
The concept is similar to the concept of darkness. Darkness is not opposite of light, it is absence of light.
The concept is similar to the concept of darkness. Darkness is not opposite of light, it is absence of light.
JamesBugman · 56-60, T
Since "Something" can only be evaluated by a living thing, I would say "Nothingness" is when you die.
Me. At least me for the first three to four years that I was here.
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
Its whats left of your paycheck when tax is taken out.
brokensignal · 46-50, M
In the world of something we don’t know nothing. 😉
sree251 · 41-45, M
@brokensignal I would rephrase your statement this way:
We are a world of things. It is like the alphabet of 24 letters (A, B, C, etc).
No letters, no alphabet.
Similarly, no things, no world (i.e no us.)
We are a world of things. It is like the alphabet of 24 letters (A, B, C, etc).
No letters, no alphabet.
Similarly, no things, no world (i.e no us.)
thinkingoutloud · F
Nothingness is the void we manifest from.
calicuz · 56-60, M
Nothingness is where that void of everything is.
StarLily · 51-55, F
Perhaps a state of neutrality or non-duality.
Fertilization · 36-40, F
Nothing is nothing.
RuyLopez · 56-60, M
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DDonde · 31-35, M
It's relative to the presence of other things. It is the absence of other things in mind. It's not meaningful to talk about as an independent thing.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@zeggle Me confused? Please go through our conversation carefully. I am trying to pin down what you are saying. As I said, language is a logic code. If we use language (in our case, It is English), it is easy to analyze the soundness of our reasoning by checking it out in terms of math equations. It is easy to flush out crooked thinking. X-X=X doesn't make sense.
Berating each other in not the right approach in cooperative learning. Insisting that X-X=X does not advance human learning. It is a doctrinal equation, not a logical one. It's similar to insisting that God created things out of nothing. And there are billions of people who believe and accept that.
Berating each other in not the right approach in cooperative learning. Insisting that X-X=X does not advance human learning. It is a doctrinal equation, not a logical one. It's similar to insisting that God created things out of nothing. And there are billions of people who believe and accept that.