For users preferring the ⏳ Old Chronological Feed layout: ❓

@poisonouscupcake P.S He unfollowed you because you only offer poisonous cupcakes!

@Souls who doesn’t love a little arsenic🧐

@poisonouscupcake Just a sprinkle will take the tingle away 😂

@SW-User
We understand.
We'll keep these concerns in mind, and see if we can address and improve these things in the near future.

@Andrew I have not kept track of the various changes in the feeds but I don't think this is a new issue, no. But I would have hoped that setting the feed to "time posted" would have solved it. I would just like to keep going back and seeing older posts once I've already seen the newer ones.

@ServantOfTheGoddess

I believe we will need a new setting to accommodate this.

Often times users wish to have completely opposite feed functionality.

Right now, many users don't like the fact that posts "disappear" or fall off of feeds, once they scroll past it.

On the other-hand, users like yourself, seem to prefer that posts immediately fall away, once you scroll past them in feeds.

We may need to create a new setting to facilitate these differences in preference.

We'll try to see if we can make some improvements to these issues some time soon.

@Andrew Thank you for all your efforts!

@HootyTheNightOwl

As mentioned in another comment of mine:

[quote]With that setting in effect, there can still be some slight shifting of post order.

In order to give all users as fair and balanced of an experience as we can,
we try to slightly balance exposure for users who may not be very popular, or do not have many friends/connections on SW.

There are several reasons for the slight rebalancing, but for the most part, posts seen in your feed, with that setting on, should be generally chronological.
[/quote]

Giving other less popular users, a more fair and balanced experience on SW (for example),
outweighs the inconvenience of having a slight discrepancy away from maintaining a perfectly strict, chronological order, in our view.

We understand that users would all prefer settings that are "most ideal for them", personally,

however, we need to design this site with the general benefit of "Everyone" in mind.

@Andrew Lmao... Given that my block list is much longer than my friends list... I hardly consider myself to be "popular".

A lot of the time, it seems to be the fact that posts have basically been tossed into the air before being stuck in the feed that's annoying people.

Well... that and the fact that the feed is basically staying the same. I get that SW has quiet times - but recently, it's been feeling more like dead times.

@Andrew just wished someone would have said something about it in my FAQ.

I sort of thought you guys approved of it. It was a bit of a lengthy discussion about links in that FAQ.

@DeWayfarer
I understand.
As we do have to read and attend to many posts and comments of users, your mention of that link in your post, may have been glossed over at the time we read it.

I can vaguely recall your post, but I'm sure that we did not, in our minds, "Disapprove" of you sharing what you saw as useful advice to users.

@Andrew That's good to know as I've had lots of posts and photos disappear.🤷

@TheRascallyOne 💓

@Peaches aww 🐰

@Peaches I'm using Android phone. I mean, I couldn't play it. It always error.

@iamelijah Is it still not working?

@Peaches Yes. It's still buffering.

@Peaches The Friends tab that used to be on the home page....

@HootyTheNightOwl how do you access it in the preset? 🤦‍♀️

@Lilymoon I have no idea... changing the settings has no overall effect on my feed for me...

@DesiDudeJ04 These [i]are[/i] the games.

@empanadas you ain't trying hard enough lol

@NudasPriest
We offer users "Great amounts of Flexibility", with the options we provide.

There aren't any social networking services that will going to show users "Every single post and comment, in Chronological order",
unless they intend to remain a very tiny community of ~100 users without growth.

That simply is not a feasible long-term strategy.

We also have a responsibility contain and limit inappropriate content, content that could trigger and affect certain groups of users, content that is inappropriate for minors, and so forth.

We do have the right to make certain decisions pertaining to these issues, for the broader benefit of the community as a whole,
even if a few users may not get to have the site exactly the way they would like it to be.

@Andrew OK, so are you saying the algorithm-based feed needed to be brought in due to server/bandwidth constraints as the site grew? If so, I can appreciate and respect that ... though I would have preferred to have that divulged up front.

Chronology should still be possible though, and even easier? And settings should take care of the content?

Also, if you're confident that it's 'just a few users', would you be happy to pin an admin post (for a week) with a vote so we could gauge how many users would like a 'strict chronology' option, and another for 'every post' (even if that isn't feasible anymore)?

@NudasPriest
[quote=NudasPriest]OK, so are you saying the algorithm-based feed needed to be brought in due to server/bandwidth constraints as the site grew?[/quote]

I haven't said that, and I'm not sure why that seems implied.

I have explained the reasons for discrepancy in chronological order many times.


I'll requote some of my comments made here:

[quote=Andrew]With that setting in effect, there can still be some slight shifting of post order.

In order to give all users as fair and balanced of an experience as we can,
we try to slightly balance exposure for users who may not be very popular, or do not have many friends/connections on SW.

There are several reasons for the slight rebalancing, but for the most part, posts seen in your feed, with that setting on, should be generally chronological.[/quote]

[quote=Andrew]Giving other less popular users, a more fair and balanced experience on SW (for example),
outweighs the inconvenience of having a slight discrepancy away from maintaining a perfectly strict, chronological order, in our view.

We understand that users would all prefer settings that are "most ideal for them", personally,

however, we need to design this site with the general benefit of "Everyone" in mind.[/quote]


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[quote=NudasPriest]Also, if you're confident that it's 'just a few users', would you be happy to pin an admin post (for a week) with a vote so we could gauge how many users would like a 'strict chronology' option, and another for 'every post' (even if that isn't feasible anymore)?[/quote]

We already have internal data on what settings users utilize for their feed.

@LvChris Yep... we're stupid and whiny because we don't like what they're doing - however, we are also the bread and butter of the site...