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If you knew your brain was atrophying (rotting) at a fast rate would you choose to die with dignity while you can still think for yourself?

Thevy29 · 41-45, M Best Comment
Nah, I'd go into Politics. Perhaps even become the countries leader. History has shown you don't need a brain to do that.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Thevy29 AND you could make six figures a year in the process!
Mikla · 61-69, F
@Thevy29 I can't stop laughing. Thank you, whoever you are. You made my sad night!!
Thevy29 · 41-45, M
@CestManan We really do pay these buggers in charge way too much.

Yes.
I already have the means, just in case such a dire diagnosis might be made - or similar scenarios, such as some disease which guarantees severe pain until death with no drugs or other remedies that work.
It's important to have the means and use it before one loses the capacity to make the choice.
It's also important to discuss it with loved ones. Make an agreement that either they will be absent so that they can't possibly be implicated,
or that they choose to be there to support and farewell you.
Also best to organise to be in a place where it's legal.

The laws around the world are changing fast. Soon it will be legal everywhere so long as there is proof that the person made that choice of their own free will while still sane and able.

Given that medicine is now extending life to well past 90 and 100 years old - but often without any meaningful quality of life or relationships - the right to die is fast becoming a profound ethical issue.

Medicine should never be such a profitable and powerful industry that people are compelled to live.
I'd get a passport and go somewhere where I can legally end my life on my own terms.

I know that I am not going to live to see my own retirement and I'm okay with that. I've already lived a lot longer than the initial prognosis that they gave me anyway.

I guess that the only thing that I'm scared of is being forgotten... to know that I was so insignificant that no one thinks about me or remembers me fondly.
@Mikla It's okay, I know that, if it's meant to be, I will find a way to make it so... eventually.

I'm currently looking forward to trying out an idea that I got tonight. Hopefully, that will bear some fruit for me.
Mikla · 61-69, F
@HootyTheNightOwl Will you ever be back on here?
@Mikla I'm here quite a bit, so I shouldn't be that hard to find in future... 🙂
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That's a tough one . I’ve had friends do it ,friends who wanted to do it and never got to do it and friends who suffered to the end .
Mikla · 61-69, F
@SW-User It IS a tough one. Never, in a million years would I have thought i would be pondering such a question.
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Yes I would.
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@Mikla As sad as it is. I'd like to go as I am. ❣️
Mikla · 61-69, F
@SW-User I agree with you. It's not sad, I think it's sad we view the "unknown" in a sad way, if that makes sense. The reality is we don't know what's in store for us, maybe the future will be better!?
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@Mikla I hope to think I can ascend to a place of peace and less suffering.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
I think I would just excuse myself and retrench alone to a safe but private place where I could tend to my hobbies and garden as well as I could, and let death catch me whenever it wishes to.
Yes, I would. I would do a Robin Williams on myself.
Mikla · 61-69, F
@PhoenixPhail Really? I came close though not in that way. I didn't mean to mix the meds and that rather large shot of scotch was no help. I honestly thought I was dying, no joke. This was only a few days ago. I have never been so scared. While I still have my strength and the "good" part of my brain working...well, I just don't know anymore. I have a brain issue as well as the worst MS. It's like a race to see what body part will give up first.
@Mikla OMG. Yes, you've really got some issues.

And, yes, I would choose to die with dignity.
I have some rather challenging medical issues, myself, and these days, it would seem to be a race between whether I'll take myself out due to those, or if I'll choose to leave because of what's going on in this insane world.

Living in these times and with my physical maladies, [b][i]isn't[/i][/b] my idea of freedom.
Mikla · 61-69, F
@PhoenixPhail I understand but should you/we let "these times" make our decision for us? I am so sorry for your health issues my friend :(
CestManan · 46-50, F
A lot of the people on this forum have brains that are rotting, so they should be well qualified to answer this.
If I was diagnosed with one of the dementia diseases, yes.
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I'm so sorry.
I think I would want to.
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Very big dilemma in deed . @Mikla
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
In a word, yes.
Butterflykisses24 · 51-55, F
Yes I think so
Shytoshow · 56-60, M
I’d like to say “yes”, but I don’t know. Depending on what else was going on in my life, I might be hoping for some kind of treatment that could help me live a bit longer in my right mind.
Mikla · 61-69, F
@bijouxbroussard The sad truth is I do not want to leave. I will never get better. My brain is just one issue.
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
These kinds of things always happens to the nice people
Mikla · 61-69, F
@BigGuy2 Smart man. The thing is terrible things happen to people every day. I am fortunate in many ways
@Mikla I'm glad I lightened your spirit a bit. How are you doing these days.
Are you okay? Still with us? 🙂 🤞
Mikla · 61-69, F
@PhoenixPhail Yes, I am still here! Thank you for asking about me, it means very much. I am doing ok all things considering! Today, (so far) is a good day! How are you??
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
All OK, leave a message - whichever way - and let's chat
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
CestManan · 46-50, F
@BigGuy2 I wonder if this lady is okay.
BigGuy2 · 26-30, M
@CestManan i know, that's what was worrying me
FrozenGuy · 61-69, M
I would probably write about the experience of losing my mind, until I couldn't write anymore. The only dignity I would have left is through my experiences and ability to articulate them and give meaning to them.
Mikla · 61-69, F
@FrozenGuy That is exactly what I have been doing. Writing, for me is cathartic and also my dream. I did get published once and I never was more proud of myself!
FrozenGuy · 61-69, M
@Mikla It is the same with me! You should be proud of yourself! I've never been published, but I hope to be one day. For now, everything I write goes on my blog, but it is very important to me.
Yes, definitely.

EXIT International has a website.
Anyone over fifty can join EXIT International for a small annual fee.
They sell small handbooks at a modest price which supply instructions for a painless death and how to avoid any legal problems for loved ones.
They also have monthly meetings in many areas where members discuss methods and share research.
A notable aspect of these meetings is that the average age is seventy or above, all are highly intelligent, love life and have a gentle and excellent sense of humour.
Mikla · 61-69, F
@hartfire Thank you for the info. I've never heard of "Exit".
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CestManan · 46-50, F
Mikla, I thought this was a hypothetical question. I didn't know you were enduring this.

I do not know what your decision is but is there a chance you could be coherent for another decade or so?

Someone close to me made a "Decision" recently over health issues, this kind of thing just bothers me.
Mikla · 61-69, F
@CestManan May I privately message you?
CestManan · 46-50, F
@Mikla Oh by all means, you are more than welcome :)
Well people's brains do naturally atrophy over time. So it really depends on just how fast we are talking about. People have lived with up to 90% of there brain gone.
@Mikla That is a deeply personal decision and no one can give a person advice on that. At best I've seen is no matter what decision a person makes in that kind of situation it is always the wrong one. At least to somebody. :/
CestManan · 46-50, F
@canusernamebemyusername I have a friend who is not even 30 yet and half her brain is gone. She does a lot of dumb stuff.
Mikla · 61-69, F
@canusernamebemyusername I wasn't asking for a decision, I was asking a question out of curiosity. The decision is already made. Thank you for responding!
Dignity. They are diseases relentless and unforgiving, for those choosing to endure to the bitter end.
@Mikla

You're welcome.

While not Alzheimer's, I remember Billy Connolly remarked much the same about his ordeal slipping into Parkinsons. Watching himself "come apart-at-the-seams", as it were.

I get that, absolutely. It's a horrifying thing to lose yourself, little by little, while you watch from a front row seat.
Till Alzheimer's and other neuro atrophy conditions were further researched, I think the misconception was that patients were blissfully unaware. The reality was chilling.

💚
Mikla · 61-69, F
@SethGreene531 Thank you for your post! I will read up on Billy Connolly . The thing I know of him is he was a comedian. And yes, it IS horrifying and a complete nightmare.
@Mikla Certainly. Thank you for sharing with us. The very best to you.
thepreposterouspanda · 36-40, M
Absolutely. I have seen more than one person go out the slow way with multi-symptom atrophy and Alzheimer's and I don't want either of those fates.
Iwillwait · M
*sigh* that's hard. I'm not sure.
Mikla · 61-69, F
@Iwillwait Awww...thank you.
Handfull1 · 61-69, F
@Mikla you are young. FTD??
Mikla · 61-69, F
@Handfull1 I just turned 63. What does FTD mean?
Pretzel · 61-69, M
yup. a quart of southern comfort and 20 or 30 xanax should do the trick
Mikla · 61-69, F
@Pretzel I like the way you think! :)
Pretzel · 61-69, M
@Mikla I"m not going out in a diaper, drooling on myself and having my personal needs attented to by a minimum wage employee - and sure not asking family to do it
Mikla · 61-69, F
@Pretzel I agree with everything you said. :)
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CestManan · 46-50, F
That is a hard one because well, I have no idea how I would handle it.
That or volunteer for medical science as a human guinea pig
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Mikla · 61-69, F
@Spoiledbrat @Spoiledbrat Yeah, it is scary.

 
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