I find it a little ironic that people seem to hate communism and get in this current situation we all find ourselves in we are all now about helping
Each other and supporting our communities which are very communist values
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Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@Ryannnnnn which u don't seem to have done. Your looking into this from a very black and white perspective rather than look into the history of the communist values your choosing to solely believe someone else's highly distorted view of it and basing it on horrible actions certain people have done.
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
@Loopysoutherner This is a circular argument. I'm telling you to read history for facts, then you just say i'm biased. Then I tell you to read history and find out for yourself, and you call me biased again. Pot calling the kettle black.
You don't even know if i'm biased because you haven't read the history around communism. Go and do that and then we can have a discussion but i'm not going to waste anymore time now. I'm literally telling you to be objective..
You don't even know if i'm biased because you haven't read the history around communism. Go and do that and then we can have a discussion but i'm not going to waste anymore time now. I'm literally telling you to be objective..
Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@Ryannnnnn I've read history and know its not perfect and am looking at it objective and understanding different views and mine is to try return communism to its core roots and not what people think it is based on some propaganda that America likes to spit out at people. We need to get away from far right values but people like sheep keep falling for all that bull shit
Capitalism has failed!! This pandemic will make socialists out of a lot of people. We have no worker protection now, no rent protection, no universal healthcare, no debt forgiveness, no small, single person business protection, states do not have equal access to resources. Business wants to open despite close 9,800 American having does because of this virus!
The greed, avarice and sloth are in full display of the US government. Why do we have state bidding wars-are all not equal under the lay? Is SC less important that Colorado or Texas?
I am so glad to watch capitalism fail. The US should be ahead of the curve in treating this virus and it is the WORST there is--and the most ill equipped to handle it. Clueless people that have no medical degree of any kind are being put in charge of this and it is failing-badly!
The WORLD mediac; community needs to come together AS ONE-FUCK THE BORDERS----to find a vaccine for this. Not a cure-That is just more greed. And the Vaccine should be free to all. more should not go to Chine. Japan, Ecuador, the US, England or Portugal. All get it and fuck the world governments that are failing because of this.
That is the new world order sa it HAS TO BE!
Billionaires and Millionaires SERVE NO USEFUL FUNCTION!
The greed, avarice and sloth are in full display of the US government. Why do we have state bidding wars-are all not equal under the lay? Is SC less important that Colorado or Texas?
I am so glad to watch capitalism fail. The US should be ahead of the curve in treating this virus and it is the WORST there is--and the most ill equipped to handle it. Clueless people that have no medical degree of any kind are being put in charge of this and it is failing-badly!
The WORLD mediac; community needs to come together AS ONE-FUCK THE BORDERS----to find a vaccine for this. Not a cure-That is just more greed. And the Vaccine should be free to all. more should not go to Chine. Japan, Ecuador, the US, England or Portugal. All get it and fuck the world governments that are failing because of this.
That is the new world order sa it HAS TO BE!
Billionaires and Millionaires SERVE NO USEFUL FUNCTION!
@Loopysoutherner Same. 9,800 US deaths--three times more than 9/11!!!!! And he does not seem to take responsibility for this...The republican party is falling apart and with that capitalism! [b]Old Rich WHite Men[/b] are not the in thing now. It's time for TRICKLE UP economics.
Let the markets wipe them out and let free market fail--and let something better be born in it's wake!
Let the markets wipe them out and let free market fail--and let something better be born in it's wake!
breezeblocks · 31-35, F
That is not communism.
Communism by definition is a political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production of a society.
Communism isn’t about personal values whatsoever. It isn’t about “helping each other” or “supporting communities” that can be done without being under a communist rule. Communism is only a political term. It isn’t about personal values whatsoever.
Communism by definition is a political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production of a society.
Communism isn’t about personal values whatsoever. It isn’t about “helping each other” or “supporting communities” that can be done without being under a communist rule. Communism is only a political term. It isn’t about personal values whatsoever.
Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@breezeblocks that's the bastardized version. At its very core it isn't about one person being better than the other because of class or wealth or whatever its about supporting each other and improving our communities.
breezeblocks · 31-35, F
@Loopysoutherner
It’s an impossible utopia. It’s a beautiful idea, but that’s all it is, an idea.
Look at history, all the times that a government has attempted to place communistic laws upon its citizens, it has failed miserably.
It’s an impossible utopia. It’s a beautiful idea, but that’s all it is, an idea.
Look at history, all the times that a government has attempted to place communistic laws upon its citizens, it has failed miserably.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 41-45, MVIP
im a communist in my household. i make the money, i pay the bills, i make the decisions.
in the extends family friends circle, im a socialist. i dont mind helping or being helped.
on a state and national level im a libertarian. and i cant stand big government. and i want my taxes spent wisely and not on stupid endless social programs.
in the extends family friends circle, im a socialist. i dont mind helping or being helped.
on a state and national level im a libertarian. and i cant stand big government. and i want my taxes spent wisely and not on stupid endless social programs.
Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@Sicarium we always more take take take rather than give and helping the less fortunate
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@Loopysoutherner Communism at its core isn't about helping the community, it's about managing the community, controlling it. Those are not the same thing.
If you doubt this, look at any nation that attempted communism in any form during the entirety of the 20th century.
Smh. People argue in favor of mass murder and slavery without having any clue what they're talking about.
If you doubt this, look at any nation that attempted communism in any form during the entirety of the 20th century.
Smh. People argue in favor of mass murder and slavery without having any clue what they're talking about.
Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@Sicarium thinks aren't as black and white. What your talking about is certain infamous figures version of communism. That's same as saying Muslim is evil or northern Ireland is evil because of the ira
Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@MarkPaul from what I've read about communism it's very much so. People particularly in my area are all about helping our community which again is very definition of what communism is meant to be
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@Loopysoutherner Helping others can be claimed as a fundamental tenant of every economic practice, of most religions, and each national identity. It seems like you have an agenda in search of a crisis and you have decided to exploit a pandemic to force-fit your agenda into it. Sloppy.
Th1nkF1rst · 70-79, M
@Loopysoutherner You need another Dictionary and probably a Good History Book covering the Communism in Eastern Europe following World War 2 or possibly Venezuela Right Now!
FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@FreeSpirit1 how is this evil?
"Communism is not anti-individualist. However, it does say that decisions should be good for the population as a whole, instead of just being good for only some part of people in the country."
"Communism is not anti-individualist. However, it does say that decisions should be good for the population as a whole, instead of just being good for only some part of people in the country."
FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
@Loopysoutherner Find someone who has lived under communism and ask them if it's evil or not, 99.9 percent will tell you it is and the other .1 percent was probably a party leader.
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Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@Underconstruction that's people who have bastardized it to excuse what their doing. Do u think all Muslims are terrorists or all people from Northern Ireland are terrorist?
itsoeasy · 56-60, M
@Underconstruction why does usa hate venezuela so much, one reason they have lots of oil,,but haiti which has none, usa ignores papa doc murdering the peopel there
@itsoeasy It´s not Venezuela that I hate, it´s the fucking disastrous government of Chaves and Maduro. You are welcome to move there and starve yourself there if you are so in love with the cause.
TexChik · F
@Loopysoutherner they kill anyone that is not on board ... study the history of the soviet union and China
Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@TexChik "Communism is not anti-individualist. However, it does say that decisions should be good for the population as a whole, instead of just being good for only some part of people in the country." that's what it's meant to be about
TexChik · F
@Loopysoutherner is the government unilaterally makes all the decisions . You obey or you Are sent to re-education camps . If you survive that , you might see your family again .
Th1nkF1rst · 70-79, M
That might be True, the helping part
... Socialist or Communist low! Class working proletariat all banding in small hushed groups together before Government Curfew to share a few rotting potatoes, molding breads, news about those who have escaped, tips about who the might be the Government Spy amongst their community, whispers about the family that was taken away during the night.
... Socialist or Communist low! Class working proletariat all banding in small hushed groups together before Government Curfew to share a few rotting potatoes, molding breads, news about those who have escaped, tips about who the might be the Government Spy amongst their community, whispers about the family that was taken away during the night.
fun4us2b · M
In a crisis it’s good to work together...when things go back to normal, folks will go back to flipping the bird 🐥
fun4us2b · M
@Loopysoutherner we all are...if anything this bit of humility is a silver lining of this whole thing.
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
The problems people have with communism are a lot deeper. We still have community in capitalist societies, it just isn't enforced by authoritarians.
Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@curiosi haha that's good
SW-User
Many Americans say they hate socialism too. Until they need a good dose of it and do it for a while. Then they claim to hate it again.
Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@SW-User exactly. Americans in particular are bred to believe in capitalism and about improving your needs over other people's
itsoeasy · 56-60, M
capitialism has failled after two week sof lock down and govt is forced to takeon commuinist role to look after people. up the workers
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
Those are socialist values...not communist.
Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@JaggedLittlePill like it says thats propaganda which tends to exaggerate to make another party or country sound worse than it is communism at it core Is meant to be
a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.
a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.
JaggedLittlePill · 46-50, F
The confusion you both exhibit is the goal here. Socialism isn't scary but it has been made to be scary. This is a purposeful campaign by communists and capitalists alike. Communism is the extreme...like the far right neo nazis extreme or the far left feminazis. capitalism is the other extreme and socialism is there in the middle being made into the vil deadly sin.
Loopysoutherner · 51-55, F
@JaggedLittlePill I am a socialist so am on same side as u but just trying to express true value of communism which at its core is helping the community and each other. Its just gotten lost in translation