How do cities cope with their Homeless problems?
Cities with programs that service the homeless appear to attract more homeless people at the expense of taxpayers.
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Fernie · F
"at the expense of taxpayers" how selfish and cold. Greed is why there are so many homeless people...greed and heartlessness. No affordable housing for anyone not upper middle class or rich. Are you aware that in most cities a one bedroom apt is 12-1500 dollars and UP? NO utilities? Poor people are being shoved aside into a hole, into dangerous slums...food is unaffordable unless you live on garbage food...rent is unaffordable...health care is unaffordable..education is unaffordable....do we live on the same planet?
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GarryToppins · 36-40, M
@Fernie Yes at the expense of taxpayers. I live in the real world. Not in fantasy land where Bernie Sanders milks a wealthy cow and pays for everything. Cities with programs that serve the homeless often become overloaded as, and i don't know if you know this, but people have the capacity to migrate. Eventually services get cut or cities invest in ways to get them out of their city.
carsonfry · 22-25, M
Yes, because they never address the problems of the homeless. Most homeless want to be homeless. They want no responsibility. Our cities want to try to rehabilitate them. There are a few that are in that bucket. But most want to be homeless. They want no responsibility, and some do not even want a shower, but they all want food.
Every city should open up a park to gain them access to a shower and provide some food, and dedicate some land for them to stay. They have plenty of nature parks, they need a homeless park.
It should not be criminal to be homeless.
Every city should open up a park to gain them access to a shower and provide some food, and dedicate some land for them to stay. They have plenty of nature parks, they need a homeless park.
It should not be criminal to be homeless.
GarryToppins · 36-40, M
@Fernie I'm not seeing any solutions, just whining.
Fernie · F
@GarryToppins oh, now it's whining...ok trump junior....I am done here. One day you might suddenly find yourself with no shelter...I sort of hope you do so you will pull your head out of your butt. Sad to know you're out there spewing this crap. I'm done with you. Don't bother responding...you're too toxic...I won't be reading anymore of your uninformed nonsense
GarryToppins · 36-40, M
@Fernie Oh no she called me Trump. That must be your go to when you can't reinforce your over-inflated self-worth. I hope you've invested in a car with a nice back seat or trunk space. I won't be homeless because I make good decisions and a have built-up a safety network.
sighmeupforthat · 46-50, M
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They use tactics to drive them out. Like building bike racks under bridge where homeless people stay so they can't sleep there.
GarryToppins · 36-40, M
@SW-User Interesting.
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@GarryToppins Extra Credits made a great video on that:
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GarryToppins · 36-40, M
@SW-User Fascinating! Thanks!
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/medicine-hat-homeless-free-update-1.3949030
GarryToppins · 36-40, M
@CountScrofula The US doesn't have the support system and I doubt cities would fund the positions/programs needed to make it successful. It also helps that Medicine Hat is extremely cold in Winter.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@GarryToppins Well sure. But the point here is people need to get over the "programs for the homeless will attract homeless people" and just focus on getting them some houses and fixing the problem. Homelessness exists because it is allowed to exist, not because it's an impossible problem to address.
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GarryToppins · 36-40, M
@SW-User Low cost housing has downsides. They tend to not be taken care of very well by the tenants or the government agency that created them. They make housing more expensive overall by taking up space and not contributing as much to the tax base. They also make an area less desirable for people to move to.
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bijouxbroussard · F
Another “hate the poor” poster. Lovely. 🙄
GarryToppins · 36-40, M
@bijouxbroussard You are making accusations that are untrue. Homeless programs in cities like Seattle and San Francisco are a great example of "no good deed goes unpunished". Further none address route causes. The homeless are not "poor" they are people outside the system entirely. Many are mentally ill. Others have problems with drugs and alcohol. Some can be rehabilitated and brought into the system. I used to volunteer at an LGBT youth shelter when I was in college. I couldn't handle self-destructive people.
bijouxbroussard · F
@GarryToppins I’ve been a volunteer going on 30 years. And I’ve actually seen people who were able, with help, to get out of that situation, which is overwhelming. Especially in places like here in San Francisco where [b]professional[/b] working people can’t afford rent. The idea that we [b]shouldn’t[/b] help people because others seeking help will come seemed mean-spirited and cynical. If that’s [b]not[/b] what you were saying, then I apologize for interpreting it that way.
GarryToppins · 36-40, M
@bijouxbroussard I was not saying that, but I am cynical. A city could have a decent program, but then gets overwhelmed by people attracted to the benefits. SF and DC have laws about building height that reduce availability of housing units, drive up prices and increase suburban sprawl. I don't think cities can handle homelessness on their own. SF is too expensive.