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What do you think of schools not failing kids?

If the child is not learning properly is it not better to hold them back a year?
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greenmountaingal · 80-89, F
I am a retired teacher. Studies I've read about in teacher's college textbooks say that kids held back are so shamed and socially disconnected that is doesn't really help the kid who is held back a grade.

On the other hand, my observation from my teaching indicates that the threat of being held back is a strong motivator in getting kids to keep up with their schoolwork. When kids know they will pass no matter what, some kids will do very little.

So when you hold a kid back, you are basically sacrificing one kid's self-esteem and social position to make sure the other kids are less likely to fail the grade. Is it worth it? A very tough choice....but I think it is. One kid vs. dozens of kids. I think things worked better in the old days when you could be held back.
Was common when I was at school . These days it would be considered child abuse of some sort.. rubber stamp and out the door..
SW-User
So what motivation is there to study if no matter what,im not going to fail class
quietlitany · 36-40, M
Proof that our education system really is just a daycare system. The well supported kids or kids with direction will be geared up for college.
MikefromEP · 56-60, M
@quietlitany Thus creating a wider gap making it harder for kids in public schools to go up the ladder
quietlitany · 36-40, M
@MikefromEP I think it's already hard. They just don't help those who need help. Help goes to people that don't need it.
whateverhappens · 26-30, F
i dont know why its so hard to sit with the kids a half hour a day to review work, my parents were busy people but still made sure to do that & i was far behind in class id say grade 3 so from c & d to B+ just few hrs everyday.. not much
greenmountaingal · 80-89, F
@whateverhappens When I was a teacher in an elementary school, I found out that many parents did not have the academic background to help their kids; many of the parents could not read or write. And when I phoned them to discuss how to help their kids, they usually hung up on me.
whateverhappens · 26-30, F
@greenmountaingal wow my god
But that might hurt their feelings! 🙄
scotsbiguy · 51-55, M
So we just stop expecting the teachers to teach properly and leave education for the rich only?
Or we could actually allow teachers to teach our future generations to think
Not to just pass tests that rank the school in some weird dystopian like weekly chart show
mljenkins · 51-55, F
I don't know, my kid should probably still be in kindergarten but it would be her third year and the school will not do it
scotsbiguy · 51-55, M
@MikefromEP I`m curious, Is this also the case in the uk?
MikefromEP · 56-60, M
@scotsbiguy No idea
scotsbiguy · 51-55, M
@MikefromEP
Thank you
I`m always curious about other countries madness
The UK certainly has enough of it embedded in its culture
Good question ... pushing them ahead does no good ... holding them back, makes them feel like a target.

Forced education does this

If the school system had vouchers ... kids could transfer into another curriculum ... which fits better ... kids are not dumb ... it is the environment/associations that mess them up.
MikefromEP · 56-60, M
@questionWeaver Schools here in Canada are all inclusive now. No special rooms anymore
@MikefromEP

interesting
Vgore0304 · 31-35, F
Idc if they fail cause I dropped out half way though my senior year
katielass · F
They are doing kids no favour by passing them when they have not demonstrated an understanding of the material. that's how we end up with morons doing jobs they shouldn't be doing. But maybe the plan is for them to live on welfare anyway.
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TheCoolestCat · 31-35, M
another year in school? fuck that

 
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