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๐Ÿ› ๏ธ Smart Feeds v2 Now Released โ˜€๏ธ Secondary Custom Feed ๐ŸŒ“ Coming Soon ๐Ÿ“ข

We are happy to announce that our [b][u]Version 2 of SW Smart Feeds[/u] has now been released[/b] and is available to all users! ๐Ÿ™‚

We believe that these recent improvements made, should allow users better control of their Default Home Feed.
In addition, each user should be able to accomplish their preferences more easily.

The variety of customizable options should benefit our user-base as a whole,
where each user can have some greater control over what is shown in their feeds,
rather than all users being subjected to one or two feed formats only [i](as it used to be - which may benefit some, but also inconvenience many)[/i].




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๐ŸŒ“ [big]Secondary Customizable Feed Coming Soon[/big] ๐Ÿ“ข

We also intend to have a Secondary / Alternate Customizable Smart Feed, located next to the default Home Feed.

This will allow users to specify up to TWO highly customized Feed Layouts/Profiles, per their liking,
where they can easily switch between these two, Custom-defined Feeds, in just One Click!


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We hope that these improvements to SW will provide a better experience to everyone. ๐Ÿ‘

Thanks for the feedback and support.
Kind regards!
[i]- The SW Team[/i]
Miram ยท 31-35, F
I believe my update has been more popular.

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HannahSky ยท F
@SW-User ikr, what's up with that ๐Ÿค”
SW-User
@HannahSky Equal? Jesus, I thought we were friends.
HannahSky ยท F
@SW-User I'm trying to be fair here, but after seeing his appliances I'm reconsidering
Nuno ยท Admin
Hi everyone,

We've just made some changes in our end that should make more posts appear on your Feeds.

You don't need to make any changes to the sliders - everyone gets this improvement.

Please keep bringing your feedback to us.
Have a very great day.
PirateMonkeyCabinet ยท 36-40, M
@SW-User But... but... ranting about the updates seem to be the main way I make new friends here these days. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ
SW-User
@PirateMonkeyCabinet it's cause your sliders are all sliding the wrong way ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚
PirateMonkeyCabinet ยท 36-40, M
@SW-User Sliding right into their profiles and sliding onto that "follow" button.

Is there even such a thing as a right way to slide those sliders? ๐Ÿ˜‚
helenS ยท 36-40, F
[i]Dear admins[/i],
thank you for your efforts to make the SW experience even more enjoyable.

Please post a picture of "Customize Feed" settings which will give us the following feed:

โ—˜ Feed [u]entirely[/u] chronological;
โ—˜ [u]All[/u] posts from [u]all[/u] users with no filters whatsoever.

Thank you very much!!! ๐ŸŒท
Andrew ยท Admin
@FeetAreFantastic, @helenS,

As I was suggesting to another user earlier:

[quote]It could also help to slide the settings of "Users you Follow" and "Groups you Subscribe to", to at least the level of "2".
By moving them to "Minimum" (as you have in your snapshot), you almost entirely exclude those sources from your feed results.[/quote]


If you feel that your feed is still "too slow", it can benefit to move some of the other sliders, like the first 2-3 sliders, to "Level 2".

Having those content sources at "Minimum", can actually almost entirely exclude those sources from appearing in your feed results.

So if "Faster Speed/Recency of incoming posts" is your priority, it may help to use this setup:




Also moving "Comments & Replies" to Maximum, can further push more recent content into your feeds,
however, that depends on if you wish to show Comments in your Feed, or prefer it to remain Posts-Only.
FeetAreFantastic ยท 41-45, M
@Andrew I appreciate your help each time. But unfortunately your suggested settings don't work either. I set them the exact same way and only see posts from 1+ hours ago now (except for the very first post). Changing the first 3 sliders doesn't change this either.
helenS ยท 36-40, F
@Andrew Andrew โ€“ thank you for your help. ๐ŸŒท
I've changed my settings accordingly.
It's difficult to compare before and after though, because it can't be done individually for each devise that I have, as the settings are stored remotely.
Anyway โ€“ let's see what will happen!
Gangstress ยท 41-45, F
Oooo slidy thing
TheGoodGuy ยท M
I just want a button on the homepage that allows me to view the posts of the people I follow, in chronological order, and another button which allows me to see posts from all users, in chronological order.

I don't wanna see "more" from the people I follow, I wanna see only them and then have the option of seeing everyone when I want to with the click of a button.

Coming to SW when we had the feed set to the people we're following was like entering a room full of friends, without having that option it's like entering a room full of strangers and trying to spot the odd friend here and there. It's not the same vibe.
TheGoodGuy ยท M
@ExtremeNext you can see all posts by everyone by clicking the "new" tab.
Don't leave me bby ๐Ÿฅบ
FeetAreFantastic ยท 41-45, M
@TheGoodGuy no. The new tab doesn't show everything either
TheGoodGuy ยท M
@FeetAreFantastic oh... I don't know what's going on then.
BeefySenpie ยท M
If these are smart feeds I'd rather have dumb feeds ๐Ÿ˜ Unless the SW population has become far smaller or I've been blocked by many, the number of posts seems much lower than it did previously (even when you change sliders)
FeetAreFantastic ยท 41-45, M
@BeefySenpie yes for me too. I'm missing out on many posts and I've tried many different sliders
Can you just tell me what to set it to if I want to see everything from everyone in chronological order? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ This is confusing.
PirateMonkeyCabinet ยท 36-40, M
@Nadie So far it doesn't seem like it is possible to do that. I tried asking them about it, Nuno suggested a specific combination of sliders, it didn't work.

For reference, Nuno's reply is in this comment chain.

https://similarworlds.com/groups/admin-announcements/4119732-Smart-Feeds-v2-Now-Released-Secondary-Custom-Feed?rid=49420272
@PirateMonkeyCabinet goddamn. How is one expected to just magically know that combination of settings? Looks like a goddamn lock combo.
PirateMonkeyCabinet ยท 36-40, M
@Nadie Yep, it makes no sense at all. That combo doesn't matter though, as said it still doesn't work. Things not in chronological order, still missing stuff. Worst lock ever.
Miklee02 ยท 51-55, F
Iโ€™m so confused ๐Ÿ˜•
Gangstress ยท 41-45, F
@Miklee02 honestly same
Miklee02 ยท 51-55, F
@Gangstress another filter in addition to the new and improved filter and toggle between them ๐Ÿ˜• uh ok ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ™„
ImRileyTheDog ยท 22-25, F
Synyster ยท 51-55, M
Dlrannie ยท 31-35, F
Why do you seem to be compelled to keep messing with the site to no benefit of the average user.โ˜น๏ธ
TJNewton ยท M
@Dlrannie Many people believe perfectionism is a positive. But researchers are finding that it is nothing short of dangerous, leading to everybody getting what no one wants but i will always love you ๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’š
Dlrannie ยท 31-35, F
@TJNewton ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
TJNewton ยท M
@Dlrannie Surely you remember EP Always trying to fix things that weren't broken at least we will always have each other ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹
I've tried all of the suggested settings for chronological posts, and I'm still getting a random mess. I dunno whether to cry or leave. ๐Ÿ˜ญ
SW-User
Why do I get the feeling we're doing this so people can hide their sick fetishes in groups again.
KiwiBird ยท 36-40, F
*Smart Feeds* SW's new Oxymoron.
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Carissimi ยท 70-79, F
Iโ€™m sorry, but like your previous โ€œimprovements,โ€ it just seems like more work for the subscribers. Kind of like how EP started messing around with features in its last two years. Just my opinion, but others may like it. I donโ€™t.
PirateMonkeyCabinet ยท 36-40, M
I tried going into this with an open mind, but ended up with a feed that is more confusing and further broken in exciting new ways. Please help me understand how to get this right. Here are my settings:


The end result is that the top 10 or so entries in my feed are all comments from friends over the last hour or so, in a non-chronological order, followed by seemingly only posts after that. Posts are once again not chronological. There are also still posts that just aren't present in my feed.

Since the explanation of the various sliders are very vague, here's my reasoning for why I chose what I did:

[b]Users You Follow:[/b] Middle of the line because I want to show posts regardless of whether they come from followers or not. I figured middle of the line would mean it'd be weighted equally no matter the source of the post.
[b]Groups you Subscribe to:[/b] Same as above, I aimed for middle because I wanted posts to be shown regardless of whether I follow the groups or not.
[b]Relevant Content:[/b] I figured putting it to less would mean it would avoid doing relevance sorting, and just put it all out there without evaluating if I'd be interested or not.
[b]Other Users:[/b] Not sure about the difference here between the first option and this option. Would kinda think putting it to "More" on the first option ("Users You Follow") would imply "Less" on this option (and the other way around).
[b]Comments & Replies:[/b] Put this to more as I want to show all comments from friends I follow that have enabled the showing of their comments. I don't want any of their replies hidden (unless they themselves have disabled it), so would have thought having it fully to the right would ensure that.
[b]Post Order / Sorted By:[/b] I just wanted my feed chronological. Simple as that. Yet entirely to the left still has some posts out of order.

@Andrew, @Nuno: How do I fix this? I just want the following:
Feed to be entirely chronological, all posts shown from all users (assuming blocking/muting isn't involved), all comments from friends to be shown (if their options are set to show comments in friends feeds).
PirateMonkeyCabinet ยท 36-40, M
@Really I do believe I get what you mean now. While I think I mostly do well enough in making myself understood and understanding others, English isn't my native language and sometimes my comprehension fails me a bit.

But yeah, this is one of those cases where those descriptions may make a lot of sense to someone who has full access to the inner workings of this algorithm they are using, but where for the average Joe who doesn't have the insight they do it's just a bunch of cryptic vagueness.

I'll be more than willing to admit that I have done such mistakes in some of the stuff I have worked on myself, but there comes a point where you have to look at what you are making and ask "how easy would this be to understand for an average user who isn't a developer and who might not be that computer savvy?"
Really ยท 80-89, M
@PirateMonkeyCabinet Hah, your English is excellent and you surely must know it!

From the very beginnings of computing there's been a lamentable lack of understanding between those who write the software and those who have to use it. Things seem to be even worse now, in the world of web page design, where 'cool' features and fancy graphics overrule user friendliness & convenience. More of a 'Look at what we can do' than 'How can I help you?'
PirateMonkeyCabinet ยท 36-40, M
@Really Thanks!

[quote]More of a 'Look at what we can do' than 'How can I help you?'[/quote]
I think that sums it up pretty well.
NerdyPotato ยท M
Yay, this is so much more pure than before. I can finally catch up with all my friends again after being away for a while. Thank you so much!
SW-User
pillowprincess ยท F
Hmm. I'd still prefer an option to keep it all algorithm free, and have all posts with exceptions of those being blocked/muted or having me blocked. Additionally all comments by friends and those I interact with on the boards more frequently. I'd then be adjusting my own feed making use of the previous methods of muting and blocking if necessary. Thank you.
Andrew ยท Admin
@pillowprincess
The configuration shown (below) should provide what you are asking for.

If you would like a bit More or Less Comments,
you can adjust the slider for "Comments & Replies", Up or Down, respectively, to your preference level.

pillowprincess ยท F
@Andrew
By choosing users I follow less it will make me have all my friends show up on my feed? ๐Ÿคจ
SW-User
I love you and Nuno. You guys are awesome
MrBrownstone ยท 46-50, M
@SW-User Will you do them?
SW-User
@MrBrownstone Respectfully, NO!
Carlisle ยท F
Me: Great work. Itโ€™s gonna be ok



Also me:
hippyjoe1955 ยท 61-69, M
Not trying to be a negative Nellie here but my feed has the same sad posts as it did last night. Not sure what to do. I tried all the slides in all the positions and got the same results. I had to search 'and' to know that people are still posting.
Andrew ยท Admin
@hippyjoe1955
Consider trying the setup configuration shown in the image below, and see if that helps.

You appear to only have 2 Friends,
and I suspect that content from your "Groups" is overriding your sort priority to some degree, you can try placing "Groups" to Minimum.

Also, moving the slider of "Relevant Content" higher, away from Minimum (Middle, level 3 should be fine), should help in your case, to get you to see a lot more content.

Thanks Andrew ๐Ÿ™‚
JohnOinger ยท 41-45, M
@Andrew Hey Andrew Can You Make An Attribute Called Ladies Man With A Dude Being Around Many Women Also can you create a group Called I'm A Ladies Man
JohnOinger ยท 41-45, M
@Andrew Also Create A,Group Page Called I Have Groupies
Nimbus ยท M
hippyjoe1955 ยท 61-69, M
Can anyone tell me what the sliders do or are supposed to do? Honest question. Maybe they turn the lights on at the white house because they certainly don't seem to change the feed I am getting. I try a different setting every time I am on here and all I get is week old posts and not many of them. Maybe no one is posting? Not sure. It is not making for a pleasant visit to SW.
Nimbus ยท M
@hippyjoe1955 Join the club.

Maybe there should be a 'Baffled at the Recent Changes on SW' group should be set up.
btchstfu ยท F
idk andrew... thanks ig....anyways what do i do w all these coins
quitwhendone ยท M
What exactly is "relevant content?"
JohnOinger ยท 41-45, M
Hey Andrew can you create a I Love Womanizers Group
SW-User
Here is how I set mine. What changes do I need to make in order to start seeing more current content from the majority of users? Iโ€™ve been playing with this and I still only see about six peopleโ€™s posts, and they donโ€™t tend to be new ones either.

Andrew ยท Admin
@SW-User
You can try sliding "Relevant Content" to the Middle, and that may help to provide you with a bit more recent content.

It could also help to slide the settings of "Users you Follow" and "Groups you Subscribe to", to at least the level of "2".
By moving them to "Minimum" (as you have in your snapshot), you almost entirely exclude those sources from your feed results.
SW-User
@Andrew All right. Iโ€™ll try that. Thanks, Andrew.
ExtremeNext ยท 31-35
I'm just ignoring you guys now
JustNik ยท 51-55, F
Sounds perfect Andrew! ๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ‘
CountScrofula ยท 41-45, M
Y'all are wimps I don't mind this update. It's easier to find more content now.
MethDozer ยท M
@CountScrofula plus you know. Pots are made to be stirred.
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MethDozer ยท M
@SW-UserIT sperglords. That's why
SW-User
there was nothing wrong with the feed when SW first came out, what's with all of these changes??
helenS ยท 36-40, F
@SW-User Not sure about that. Probably the "power users" (those who post and respond frequently) are really only a small minority.
SW-User
@helenS no if you go through all the threads that discuss the changes its not a minority
helenS ยท 36-40, F
@SW-User What I mean is that people who post [u]at all[/u], are a minority compared to those who are just occasional lurkers.
GLITTER ยท 36-40, F
Thanks Andrew ๐Ÿ˜Š
GJOFJ3 ยท 61-69, M
Sounds good
Mindful ยท 56-60, F
Andrew I would like to filter out anyone that has more than one user, okay maybe 2 user profiles I think itโ€™s okay to have an anon to an anon if youโ€™ve been here more than 10 years
OfflineFriend ยท 22-25
I would say let us put the second custom feed instead of the recent activities
NerdyPotato ยท M
@OfflineFriend Why replace anything instead of the promised addition?
OfflineFriend ยท 22-25
@NerdyPotato so the main page doesnโ€™t get cluttered, I said it as a option
NerdyPotato ยท M
@OfflineFriend Fair enough. But I personally wouldn't consider one extra button on the "Posts, Top, New" bar cluttering the main page, so I don't see the need to remove one of them in favor of another configurable feed if that can also be added without removing anything.
DeWayfarer ยท 61-69, M
Prefered this wording better!


Sneaky that you switched two sliders. Without the wording in my screenshot it's not very clear!
Nimbus ยท M
btchstfu ยท F
Ive customized the feed to most relevant content but why do i still keep seeing irrelevant posts by irrelevant people on my feed? kindly explain (b4 i throw these hands). Thnks
btchstfu ยท F
@Nuno ohh right. Anyways can u let me change my username pls. it says that i can only change it in December? like what... What if i die first
SW-User
@btchstfu thatโ€™s code for @Nuno is a spy ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธโ€โ™‚๏ธ ๐Ÿ˜œ
SW-User
@Nuno omggggggg I don't want people having access to my sliders that's private, how embarrassing ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ˜ณ
cherokeepatti ยท 61-69, F
People will still complain, Andrew cause thatโ€™s what they do best๐Ÿ˜
Whyme ยท 46-50, M
@cherokeepatti and some will suck up cause thats what they do
Classified ยท M
Is there an explanation what each slider is supposed to do?
I have some idea, but it having both a 'Users you follow' and an 'Other users' slider suggests that I can completely mute the users I follow and only see the other users, if I wish to. ๐Ÿค”
Helloeveryone ยท 56-60, F
@Classified you need ketchup and pickles with sliders


Haaaaaaaaaaaa
Andrew ยท Admin
@Classified
[quote]but it having both a 'Users you follow' and an 'Other users' slider suggests that I can completely mute the users I follow and only see the other users, if I wish to. ๐Ÿค”[/quote]

For the most part, yes.

You won't "100% Mute" your Followers,
however, they may be almost invisible to your feed, or at least not prioritized over others (if you customize your settings to give that effect).

Could you explain more what setup you would like to achieve?
Or which of the options you do not understand?
Classified ยท M
@Andrew That explains it, thank you.

Basically I want chronological order, friends' comments only and switching between only friends' posts and all posts. Relevance and groups are not important. ๐Ÿค”
Whyme ยท 46-50, M
Just call it facebook anonymous and get it over with
Machete ยท 56-60, M
Yah, yah, what ever .... How goes the games????
trackboy ยท 22-25, M
I want to know why we only see the new notifications now and we are unable to see or even find the older notifications. ๐Ÿฆƒ
trackboy ยท 22-25, M
@Nuno @Nuno yes that notification you get when you click the bell on the blue bar at the top. they used to go all the way back to when I started. now I'm only getting one page of notifications only going back 2 weeks. It's better t hen it was a couple of days ago when there were only a few notifications showing there. ๐Ÿฆƒ
Nuno ยท Admin
[quote]@trackboy they used to go all the way back to when I started[/quote]

If this was ever the case, the Notifications page would take several seconds/minutes to load, especially on members who get hundreds notifications a day :)

Our notifications always expired after 3 weeks, since SW started.

There is also a max limit of number of notifications that we show on the page.
trackboy ยท 22-25, M
@Nuno oh, I thought it was like messages, you click the next page to see each page of messages as you go back through your older messages. guess my memory is confusing the two in memory making me think I went through older notifications the same way as I went through older messages. ๐Ÿฆƒ
SW-User
What'll be next for improvements?
MEGATRON ยท 22-25, M
ANDREW, YOU TURN MARCH INTO JUNE!!

 
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