DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
The main difference is the Barrels.
Bourdon, while the recipe is French in origin, is traditionally made in the USA and aged in new oak barrels freshly charred, by executive orders of Theodore Roosevelt.
Southern comfort is a mix of whiskies and bourbon yet aged in a used bourbon barrel.
When the barrels are freshly charred the sugar flavors in the oak wood come out. Yet after a aging time the barrel itself takes on the flavors within the bourbon. Sort of a reverse osmosis effect.
These used bourbon barrels are sold, throughout the whole world, for making many different types of liquors.
Including scotch whiskey! Which, yes, is made in Ireland. Yet the darn Barrel is still made and aged in the USA with bourbon barrels.
The whole processes with these different liquors depends on the bourbon barrels. Even tequila, which is made with agave, uses these aged bourbon barrels.
Must note that these aged bourbon barrels may or may not be used making cognac. Especially not in French cognac. Different type of wood barrel, with a very lite char. Cognacs are derived from brandies first.
Hennessy does use aged bourbon barrels for some of their Cognacs.
Bourdon, while the recipe is French in origin, is traditionally made in the USA and aged in new oak barrels freshly charred, by executive orders of Theodore Roosevelt.
Southern comfort is a mix of whiskies and bourbon yet aged in a used bourbon barrel.
When the barrels are freshly charred the sugar flavors in the oak wood come out. Yet after a aging time the barrel itself takes on the flavors within the bourbon. Sort of a reverse osmosis effect.
These used bourbon barrels are sold, throughout the whole world, for making many different types of liquors.
Including scotch whiskey! Which, yes, is made in Ireland. Yet the darn Barrel is still made and aged in the USA with bourbon barrels.
The whole processes with these different liquors depends on the bourbon barrels. Even tequila, which is made with agave, uses these aged bourbon barrels.
Must note that these aged bourbon barrels may or may not be used making cognac. Especially not in French cognac. Different type of wood barrel, with a very lite char. Cognacs are derived from brandies first.
Hennessy does use aged bourbon barrels for some of their Cognacs.
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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@MoveAlong you said
You didn't say anything about the barrel.
" a charcoal filtration step before aging, which creates a smoother, mellower flavor.
You didn't say anything about the barrel.
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@DeWayfarer Actually by federal law bourbon must be aged in new charred oak barrels.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@MoveAlong and I mentioned that in both my initial comment and in a round about manner in my reply.
The destillation process doesn't matter without being aged in a newly charred oak barrel
ThirstenHowl · M
TLDR: both bourbon and Scotch are significantly different types of whisk(ey), and this is not just because of where each is made; Southern Comfort is a liqueur
moreover, I don't know why @DeWayfarer is claiming Scotch is made in Ireland, as Irish Whiskey is yet another distinct whisk(e)y category, but he routinely makes false statements in a variety of subject areas on SW, so I've learned to just ignore his comments after witnessing it enough times; he is also wrong about his claims regarding Theodore Roosevelt or bourbon whiskey being a French recipe ... maize did not even arrive in France from the Americas until the 16th century
I'm trying to avoid straying from the topic of the OP, but some other misinformation in the comments: only about 3% of vodka produced around the world is made from potatoes; most is made from grains, however the vodkas with the best aroma and yes, actual flavor are made from potatoes
bourbon is a whisk(e)y legally required to be distilled from at least 51% corn / maize; the remainder 49% can be a mix of other grains like rye, wheat, malted barley; bourbon is legally required to be aged in new, charred oak barrels
there is no minimum aging period to just be labelled as bourbon, but to be labelled as Straight bourbon, the aging period must be at least 2 years; moreover, if it is aged less than 4 years, then the number of years must be stated on the label; if aged for more than 4 years, there is no requirement for the number of years to be on the label
there is also a myth that bourbon has to be distilled in Kentucky, but it can be distilled in any US state
moreover, the novelty item that is "Tennessee whiskey" also legally meets the definition of bourbon (and that means exactly, completely and literally that, including being aged in a new, charred oak barrel) @DeWayfarer, but the distillers in Tennessee want to market themselves as unique, so they add a step of filtering through sugar maple charcoal before putting the new whiskey into barrels for aging ... and in spite of all this silly trouble most Tennessee whiskey tastes bland and watery compared to the rest of bourbon actually marketed as bourbon ... even the premium tiers of Jack Daniels for example still taste boring and destined to be blended with cola
Scotch is a more complicated whisk(e)y category (or rather, parent category)
Single Malt Scotch:
- must be distilled from 100% malted barley
- must be distilled in pot stills
Single Grain Scotch:
- must be distilled from a base of malted barley, while other grains (maize, wheat, rye) can be added, whether they are malted or not
- is generally distilled in continuous column stills
both Single Malt and Single Grain Scotch:
- must be distilled at a single distillery
- must be aged for 3 years in oak barrels not exceeding 700 liters, but these do not have to be (and rarely are) new barrels; most often they are used bourbon or Sherry barrels
- must be aged in Scotland
Blended Scotch:
- a blend of at least one Single Malt and at least one Single Grain Scotch
Scotch is also legally allowed to add stupid things like caramel coloring, because the combination of a cool climate in Scotland and using used barrels for aging mean the final whisky with naturally have a light hue (e.g., lighter than bourbon aged in new barrels in one of the more hot and humid US states), but some consumers equate quality with a darker hue even though this has no bearing on quality at all, and so some producers feel compelled to pander to this ignorance
(used barrels have less wood sugars, lignins and tannins for the aging whisk(e)y to extract, and these are what contribute to bourbon being dark without adding artificial coloring)
moreover, aside from these crucial core technical differences, there are also legal considerations with the naming: anything labelled as bourbon must be distilled in the US, anything labelled as Scotch must be distilled in Scotland — but this aspect is more of a legal technicality rather than what makes boubon and Scotch fundamentally different types of whisk(e)y
in theory, there is nothing to stop you from going to France and making a whisk(e)y in the style of bourbon (which to me is a very tempting thing to do, for sale only within Europe) with all the tariff BS from Trump), but it can not be legally labelled or sold as bourbon
Southern Comfort is a nasty fruit and spice liqueur which sometimes has an American whiskey base (which further may or may not include bourbon specifically) and sometimes has a vodka base, and for some reason a lot of people erroneously believe South Comfort is a whiskey, or even a brand of bourbon!!!
moreover, I don't know why @DeWayfarer is claiming Scotch is made in Ireland, as Irish Whiskey is yet another distinct whisk(e)y category, but he routinely makes false statements in a variety of subject areas on SW, so I've learned to just ignore his comments after witnessing it enough times; he is also wrong about his claims regarding Theodore Roosevelt or bourbon whiskey being a French recipe ... maize did not even arrive in France from the Americas until the 16th century
I'm trying to avoid straying from the topic of the OP, but some other misinformation in the comments: only about 3% of vodka produced around the world is made from potatoes; most is made from grains, however the vodkas with the best aroma and yes, actual flavor are made from potatoes
bourbon is a whisk(e)y legally required to be distilled from at least 51% corn / maize; the remainder 49% can be a mix of other grains like rye, wheat, malted barley; bourbon is legally required to be aged in new, charred oak barrels
there is no minimum aging period to just be labelled as bourbon, but to be labelled as Straight bourbon, the aging period must be at least 2 years; moreover, if it is aged less than 4 years, then the number of years must be stated on the label; if aged for more than 4 years, there is no requirement for the number of years to be on the label
there is also a myth that bourbon has to be distilled in Kentucky, but it can be distilled in any US state
moreover, the novelty item that is "Tennessee whiskey" also legally meets the definition of bourbon (and that means exactly, completely and literally that, including being aged in a new, charred oak barrel) @DeWayfarer, but the distillers in Tennessee want to market themselves as unique, so they add a step of filtering through sugar maple charcoal before putting the new whiskey into barrels for aging ... and in spite of all this silly trouble most Tennessee whiskey tastes bland and watery compared to the rest of bourbon actually marketed as bourbon ... even the premium tiers of Jack Daniels for example still taste boring and destined to be blended with cola
Scotch is a more complicated whisk(e)y category (or rather, parent category)
Single Malt Scotch:
- must be distilled from 100% malted barley
- must be distilled in pot stills
Single Grain Scotch:
- must be distilled from a base of malted barley, while other grains (maize, wheat, rye) can be added, whether they are malted or not
- is generally distilled in continuous column stills
both Single Malt and Single Grain Scotch:
- must be distilled at a single distillery
- must be aged for 3 years in oak barrels not exceeding 700 liters, but these do not have to be (and rarely are) new barrels; most often they are used bourbon or Sherry barrels
- must be aged in Scotland
Blended Scotch:
- a blend of at least one Single Malt and at least one Single Grain Scotch
Scotch is also legally allowed to add stupid things like caramel coloring, because the combination of a cool climate in Scotland and using used barrels for aging mean the final whisky with naturally have a light hue (e.g., lighter than bourbon aged in new barrels in one of the more hot and humid US states), but some consumers equate quality with a darker hue even though this has no bearing on quality at all, and so some producers feel compelled to pander to this ignorance
(used barrels have less wood sugars, lignins and tannins for the aging whisk(e)y to extract, and these are what contribute to bourbon being dark without adding artificial coloring)
moreover, aside from these crucial core technical differences, there are also legal considerations with the naming: anything labelled as bourbon must be distilled in the US, anything labelled as Scotch must be distilled in Scotland — but this aspect is more of a legal technicality rather than what makes boubon and Scotch fundamentally different types of whisk(e)y
in theory, there is nothing to stop you from going to France and making a whisk(e)y in the style of bourbon (which to me is a very tempting thing to do, for sale only within Europe) with all the tariff BS from Trump), but it can not be legally labelled or sold as bourbon
Southern Comfort is a nasty fruit and spice liqueur which sometimes has an American whiskey base (which further may or may not include bourbon specifically) and sometimes has a vodka base, and for some reason a lot of people erroneously believe South Comfort is a whiskey, or even a brand of bourbon!!!
MellyMel22 · F
You can only do SoCo & lime with one 😬 Was a huge part of shots where I last bartended.
Gusman · 61-69, M
@MellyMel22 I used to drink it neat, over ice. Very smooth. 😋
hunkalove · 70-79, M
Southern Comfort is sugary sweet and probably causes diabetes. Janis Joplin drank it. I played in a country band where the singer drank Southern Comfort and 7-Up and he probably went through a fifth of it every night. Horrible stuff!
BuzzedLightyear · 61-69, M
Southern Comfort is super sweet and all that sugar will take a toll the next day. I learned that at the tender age of 14 at my first high school dance. Drank a half pint straight before the dance...
Tom47 · M
Not a lot. Bourbon is American. I ones read that the only difference in Whiskey and Bourbon is that Bourbon is made in Kentucky. They're both made from corn though. Bourbon is smoked in barrels for years.
Pretzel · 70-79, M
southern comfort is a liquer
scotch whiskey is made from barley
bourbon requires at least 51 per cent corn in the mash
so all whiskeys are from a fermented grain of some sort
you can use rye as well
scotch whiskey is made from barley
bourbon requires at least 51 per cent corn in the mash
so all whiskeys are from a fermented grain of some sort
you can use rye as well
ElwoodBlues · M
Distilled spirits are all made from some kind of starch/sugar source that is fermented in water with yeast; often a kind of grain.
Rum: cane sugar
Vodka: potatoes
Rye: rye
Scotch: barley
Whiskey: a mix (barley, corn, rye, wheat)
Bourbon: corn
The list above is oversimplified; other grains can be mixed in. For example, Kentucky Bourbon must begin with at least 51% corn. For single malt Scotch, only malted barley, water, and yeast are used (malted means soaked in water until it starts to sprout).
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Rum: cane sugar
Vodka: potatoes
Rye: rye
Scotch: barley
Whiskey: a mix (barley, corn, rye, wheat)
Bourbon: corn
The list above is oversimplified; other grains can be mixed in. For example, Kentucky Bourbon must begin with at least 51% corn. For single malt Scotch, only malted barley, water, and yeast are used (malted means soaked in water until it starts to sprout).
[media=https://youtu.be/pnkHP_v3CYw?t=35]
meggie · F
Bourbon and southern comfort are much sweeter than scotch. Whisky is now being made all over the world.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Bourbon is north American whiskey distilled from at least 51% maize. Scotch is whisky distilled in Scotland from barley (single malt) or a blend of grains.
Scotch is from Scotland and is distilled to a better quality.
Serious question? Scotch is made in Scotland. It refers to the place of origin.
@Gusman I only know because I lived in Scotland for a couple of years.
ThirstenHowl · M
@Notladylike it's significantly more complex than that
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