Is veganism the way to go?

Lol. But aren't vegetables inexpensive.

Vegetables are much cheaper than animal products. I don't understand why people think being a vegan is expensive, it is really strange.

@KaliKali: I'm working class, so for us, yes, going vegan is expensive because veganism goes beyond just food. Microwave meals are a lot cheaper than buying vegetables and making home-cooked meals. Also, we don't have enough money nor time nor local availability to be so selective with all the products we buy. Just because it's inexpensive for you, doesn't mean it's inexpensive for everyone.

[quote]. Microwave meals are a lot cheaper than buying vegetables and making home-cooked meals.[/quote]

That is definitely not true. Pre-made meals are definitely more expensive than the ingredient that go in them.

[quote] Also, we don't have enough money to be so selective with all the products we buy.[/quote]

Vegan ingredients are cheaper than animal products. There is no getting around that. It is cheaper for everyone, it just may be less convenient.

@KaliKali: No...no they're not. I don't know where you're getting the idea that all vegan products are less expensive than non-vegan products, and you also need to understand accessibility. There's a reason why poor people are generally less healthy than their wealthier counterparts.

Read:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/being-vegan-rich-mans-game-1524403
http://www.fph.org.uk/uploads/bs_food_poverty.pdf
https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/3p8v49/but_why_is_vegan_specialty_food_so_expensive/

Vegan specialty food, is expensive. Vegan ingredients aren't. Do you really think chicken or steak is more expensive than lentils or beans?

[quote] you also need to understand accessibility. There's a reason why poor people are generally less healthy than their wealthier counterparts.[/quote]

Do you think I'm wealthy or something?

@KaliKali: You clearly are wealthier than me.

You need to take into consideration that people in poorer situations don't have as much time or accessibility or money to spend on vegan products. The time especially factors in when making home-cooked meals from vegetables.

Read the Food Poverty PDF I linked. It's enlightening.

Also, it is just obvious from personal experience. When I went vegan the amount of money I spent on food was cut in half.

@KaliKali: Mine's from personal experience too. My parents have to buy and cook for a family of four, and we're working class, and they have to constantly work for barely above minimum-wage, pay for my brother's college, and pay for my schooling as well. Please don't tell me that I can "afford" it, when I know that I can't.

[quote]You need to take into consideration that people in poorer situations don't have as much time or accessibility or money to spend on vegan products.[/quote]

Cooking for yourself takes more time but less money, this is true. Accessibility can be an issue, but it isn't a huge issue. If you can get to a supermarket then you have access to vegan food. I am aware there are people who can not get to a supermarket, but that is a tiny subset of people. And again, vegan ingredients are WAY cheaper than animal products.

@KaliKali: I'm not trying to sound rude, but my OP was that I personally can't afford to go vegan, and you're acting like you understand my financial situation better than I do. I personally can't afford to go vegan, that's the end of the discussion.

@KaliKali: Once again, read the Food Poverty PDF. Thanks.

Being a vegan is cheaper than eating animal products. If you think otherwise then you have never been food shopping.

@KaliKali: Once again, [b]read the Food Poverty article[/b], and stop pretending you understand people's financial situations. No, it's not cheaper, and I've most definitely gone food shopping before. There's a reason my parents end up buying microwave meals...because they're cheaper than spending time (which equals money) to cook us a meal while also trying to work many hours each day every week. You don't understand my financial situation, you can't tell me what's more expensive for [i]my[/i] family, especially when I've provided evidence that a vegan lifestyle is generally more expensive. I bid you farewell.

Do you really think that meat and cheese is cheaper than lentils and beans?

@KaliKali: Do you think people would want to eat lentils and beans for the rest of their days just so [i]you[/i] can feel better about [i]yourself[/i]? Yeah, we're done here, bye. 👋

(Oh, and read the article that I told you to read multitudes of times while you're at it.)

No, otherwise everyone would be a vegan. Now we are getting to the truth the matter, it isn't about cost it is about caring about cheese burgers more than treating animals ethically.

@KaliKali: Nope, it's definitely about cost. I hate cheeseburgers. Have you not been reading my replies? There's multitude of factors that go into why impoverished people have a difficult time adopting veganism. [i]Read the fucking article[/i]. Hop off your high horse. Good night.

I am aware of everything in the pdf you keep referencing. I have only been addressing your claim that being a vegan is more expensive than being an omnivore. It isn't true. There are other reasons why someone may not be able to be a vegan, some of which are related to economic status, but saying that being vegan is too expensive doesn't make sense.

@KaliKali: I linked you to other articles, read them, and the PDF I linked to also says that veganism is in general more expensive. One of them is an article that is from the point of view of someone who researched an explored veganism on a tight budget and realize that he indeed could not adopt it because his current, non-vegan lifestyle was less expensive and he had less hoops to jump through to keep it. You have to tie in the lack of availability of vegan products, and how far people may have to travel to get them as well (gas is expensive). Also, I'm not just talking about vegan foods, the entire vegan lifestyle is more expensive because of the restrictions on items you can buy. Hell, we sometimes shop at the dollar store, but it's a lot harder to do that when you're vegan, and you have to make sure that the stuff you buy is free of animal products. You're clearly on a high horse so fucking tall that it could be classified as a rascacielos. I'm done talking to you. Adios.

Like I just said...

[quote]There are other reasons why someone may not be able to be a vegan, some of which are related to economic status, but saying that being vegan is too expensive doesn't make sense.[/quote]

@KaliKali: It is too expensive, for [i]my personal[/i] financial situation. Like I said, bye.

Bye. xD

@KaliKali: Finally. God is good. 🙏