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Likely I will be writing such a sci-fi story....

Yet there is no possible way I could post it here even if it's pure fiction or any other major social media site.

There are a few very old story sites that such a story could be posted. Thankfully they are virtually unknown.

Just mentioning this here because it's slow on my feed. Again to the social dynamics of this site.

Can however post the preface if any should be interested which I am highly doubtful.






The Amours. Alien culture shock. Scifi.

Preface

I have for decades wished to write such a science fiction story that is based in the very distant future. Of course some of the physics, biology and social dynamics are simply impossible to predict. So I have resorted to the pure fiction for much of this point of view.

While I do consider this completely impossible, I have drawn this story from real world examples that are controversial at best. As well as examples like current well known sources like from the original Star trek (Amok Time S2E01) and various other science fiction and fantasy authors well known and unknown alike (Piers Anthony's Xanth, Orson Scott Card Speaker for the dead, Anne McCaffrey The Tower and the Hive Series, on and on).

The real world concepts have always been a fascination for me, as to how such an alien society might actually work. To give examples would be like ant colonies and their dynamics being a excellent example of a matriarchal society with the queen, drones and workers of various types. Or the spawning demand and necessities of salmon. Or the reverse female/male physical roles of Brazilian Neotrogla or the little mention of Nambian Sensitibilla.

It's these types of physical dynamics that should be considered, when considering what a true alien society might be like, rather than our own limited monogamous values. To think that our ways and only ours is the only natural is to also ignore our own human species in both history, with the isle of Lesbos, as well current day humans such as the Zo'é tribe of Brazil.

Our current western values are so limited. Yet every acceptable science fiction writing assumes as a given that a alien culture and even biology would be the virtually the same.

To me this is the height of such hubris and arrogance, to place our values and even biology on the level of any type of alien.
What they might be like could beyond our accepted values, as to be utterly perverse. When we in our history have done things so perverse, as well as degrading, to our own kind that only current values are acceptable.

Some may say that we have grown out of such values, that we are now a better race of humans. Yet at the same time we still degrade even those of different races, social values, even those that are poor.

So how would you think about living like an ant in it's own social value structure? To be a worker, endlessly and untiringly and only for the sake of the hive. No thoughts on this and mostly because we are humans and are so much better than ants.

Yet there are certain physical characteristics that must be available for an intelligent species to exist. One is the ability to use other objects. Another is the method of communication with a wide variance of nuances.

Allen Dean Foster's Thranx seems to me one of the most intriguing with their sense of faz which allows them to move around in dark caves. This sense would seem likely to be a sense of air movement like a bats sense of echo location though I am certain other ways could be thought of.

Yet over millennium of ages other senses could be developed. Some never even considered in the greatest wild dreams of the great science fiction authors.

Not that I consider myself that imaginative. Yet a sense of the intricacies DNA itself could be a considered a survival sense to give an example.

Then there's the plant kingdom with the dichogamy types to consider. You see we all start out in life in the womb as female and only later do males become differentiated.

So that leaves us to consider natural forms of gender changes over time for alien life forms.

Now imagine the social implications of all these differences. It just bogles my mind to imagine the whole of it
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Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
Alien religions are really fun to contemplate. Check out the Roswell stone.
The images on the lonie Zamora craft and the discussions with betty hill.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Tastyfrzz this would be a bit more philosophical type beliefs. I suspect their world view or view of the universe would be quite different.

Trying to remember a certain sci book that I read decades ago. Involving a human cult leader and a so called "pixie" that literally tore up the cult leader. Kind of gruesome.

And I don't mean Clark Martian Chronicles or Heinlein (grok). Another point of view! 🤣
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@DeWayfarer A Time of Changes by Robert silverberg is a good book that discussed how on race is upended by just a few conversations with a human from earth. They had no comprehension of the word "I".
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Tastyfrzz vaguely recall reading that one. Mostly because of Sanskrit studies at the time. You see there was no tences to words in ancient Sanskrit. So "is, was, and will be" l just are not written in Sanskrit. Just the present tense. Everything translated as "is".

So I could relate to that alien race not having an " I " because of those lessons.

Another interesting thing my father much later told me. In the Czech language there are seven tenses. Called declination points.

Yet in Sanskrit there are none while Czech has four additional ones to ours.

Try to figure out how! 🤣

Both are alien languages to a few. 🙃😈😁

Now combine that with the sexagesimal number system of the ancient Sumerians!

Yes that's the true word for base sixty. Not a typo. 😁

Now conceptually can you think of a common every day object that actually uses the sexagesimal number system?

Alien, yet not so alien as you might think it to be.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
@DeWayfarer I wish we had 100 degrees instead of 90 in pi/2 radians. Could do trig in your head of that was the case!
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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Tastyfrzz I believe even Europeans would have a hard time switching from 60 seconds and 60 minutes to 100 of either or both! 🤣

360 doesn't make sexagesimal. Unless you divide it by 6 again. Base 60 is still more accurate than base 100.

60=360°...100=360°
30=180°...50=180°
15=90°.....25=90°
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7.5=45°....12.5=45°
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5=30°....... 5=18°
1=6°......... 1=18/5°

Notice the irrational on the last. Yet it's that most common 45° angle that is the biggest problem though and why we keep 360. Squaring tools of all kind use it.

We do tend to like right angles which need 45° to brace. You want a smooth framing like a picture frame or doorway that has strength, it's totally necessary. 30° or 18° most certainly isn't strength in design.