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I Was Paddled In High School

NOW MY GIRLS KNOW!

All corporal punishment had been outlawed in New York State for several years before my girls were born, so by the time they started school I knew they would never experience the “joy" of having to bend over and get their butts whacked by the principal's paddle.
My daughter Jennifer was in Seventh Grade wood shop class when one student's attention was drawn to a glass case on one side of the classroom. Among the objects, all examples of the work of former students, was a long pinewood board about two feet long and four inches wide, complete with a handle and a loop of leather that went through a small hole at the handle's tip.
“What's that?” he asked.
The teacher smiled. “What do you think it is?” he asked.
The students produced various guesses.
“A bread board?”
“Noooo,” said the teacher.
“I know!” said Jennifer. “It's one of those pizza shovels for taking pizza out of the oven!”
Knowing that nobody in his class could guess the answer, the shop teacher revealed, “It's a paddle!”
“What's it for?” asked a girl.
“To spank unruly students back in the old days,” the teacher laughed.
The class chorused “Whaaat??” “No way!” “On the butt?”
“Well sure, on the butt,” said the teacher. “That's the paddle I used on any student who messed around in my class!”
“My God!” said another girl. “How old are you?”
“Old enough to know how to handle a kid who disrupted my class! Besides,” he continued, “there are dangerous power tools here, and someone could get hurt if he fooled around. A sore butt was a lot better than buzzed-off fingers!”

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On the bus ride home Jennifer related the story to her two sisters, Jessica and Renee. They could hardly wait to get home, because they had a very curious question to ask their Mom.
I was chopping up some vegetables for the evening's dinner when the girls came in.
“Mom?” asked Jennifer.
“Yes, Jen?”
“Uh...were you...uh—were you ever paddled in school?”
I had never told the girls about my paddling in the principal's office when I was a Senior. I reacted as though Jen had asked how babies were made (and of course they knew that thanks to Sex Education class).
“Why do you ask that, Jen?” I asked nervously. I really didn't like to discuss the incident.
Jennifer explained how the class saw a paddle on display, and that the teacher used it on students. He had told the class how paddling was a very common punishment in school right up until the 1980's.
“Well,” I said, “yes I was. When I was in Twelfth Grade.”
Renee asked, “What did you do?”
I sighed. “Something really stupid and thoughtless, and I paid the price for it.”
"You mean they spanked you in school?” asked Jessica.
“Not spanked, Jess,” I corrected. “Paddled! There's a big difference.”
“So they paddled girls too?” asked Jess.
“Why not?” I replied. “We have the same butts as boys do! And remember, being girls didn't stop Grandma Dumont from tanning me, or your Aunt Gretchen or your Aunt Audrey!”
“Did you cry?” Renee asked.
“Ooooh yeah!” I laughed. “The principal gave me six of the hardest whacks in the world—right across my skirt!”
“So he hit you hard, Mom?” Jennifer asked.
“As hard as possible,” I answered. Then I added, “Don't you girls have homework to do?” I really didn't want to talk about it any more. I knew that in their collective mind's eye they imagined their mother bent over a desk and walloped on her miniskirt with that board! It somehow tended to break down parental dignity!
So off they went to their rooms, giggling a bit while I pondered our conversation. Since the State did away with paddling, not only did my girls not know how students of only a few short years ago received swats—they also did not recognize a school paddle when they saw one!
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will999 · 70-79, M
Hello BadPam 56-60, F. I attended a "free" state technical school in Australia in the 1960's. The "teachers" all men, were all armed with leather which they kept hidden under their suit jacket over their shoulder. They tried to flog the rudiments of a trade into the boys before they reached the minimum school leaving age of 15 when the vast majority of them left that school for some reason. I don't know how many of them found their way into a worthwhile career given that most of their "teachers" were failed tradesmen. During the post war boom a good tradesman could earn a lot more than a teacher in a government school in Australia and nobody would give that occupation up if they were any good at it. In all the time that I was there at that school I remember one or two teachers who stood out as being obviously different to the other thugs and from them I learned how to ask reasonable questions and the art of balanced argument. I never hit my two now adult children. My children's mother told me that she could not get my 10 yr old boy out of bed on a school morning and she found it difficult to get him to go to school at all. Next weekend I asked him what was going on at school. He told me he was forced to do two hours of clock faces every day and he was bored witless. My boy could easily tell the time by age ten. He was no prodigy but he was bright. I decided it was time to talk to his teacher. I turned up at his school one day and spoke to her when all of the kids had gone home for the day. I introduced my self as his father but she had no mental image of him as far as I could tell other than "oh yes, the little blond haired boy who always sits at the back of the class". It turned out that many of the boys in his grade were struggling with the basics and were around 2 yrs older than him. This would put him at a considerable disadvantage in any physical contest, and I noticed from checking the attendance roll that his absences began on the days when his grade did phys. ed. or sport. (This state school is widely considered to be one of the best in inner suburban Melbourne, Australia. I find it difficult to understand why). Because of the inflexible nature of the way classes are formed in the state school system his mother and I could see that he would be permanently disadvantaged if he remained at this school. He was already a mile ahead of the curriculum and he had been grouped with a bunch of pupils who were underachievers for no good reason that I could see other than "it's just the way the system works". We decided to cast our lot with a small group of parents, mostly professionals who were home tutoring their own kids. We could not afford a posh private school but our boy deserved better than he was getting, and learning in a small friendly group with close personal ties he would certainly do no worse. If he had been roaming the streets at night, stealing cars or trafficking narcotics I would have exercised some heavy handed discipline before the state correctional services got a hold of him but it was never necessary. His only crime was being smarter than the average boy his age and being bored silly with the standard of work he was expected to do at state school. Since he left school at about age 17 yrs he has been employed in a bank. His older sister is now a primary school teacher. I have not asked her but I have good reason to believe that she never hits her kids at school.
lily88mercy · 26-30, F
@BadPam
Once again, Pam, another great story. My own prep school (K-12) stopped corporal punishment by the time I was in grade 5. Many of the primary and middle school grades were taught by nuns of one particular religious teaching order immigrating from Ireland, France, and Germany. Although they were all highly educated, most with masters degrees and above, their view about discipline was almost medieval. What I found to be extremely curious was that the nuns from different nations also had different styles of paddling the miscreant students. They all used the same paddle which was similar to the one described in your story resembling the shape of a cricket bat and bored with anywhere from six to ten holes to decrease the air resistance as the nun swung the paddle onto the bum.

The French nuns spanked a girl or boy through the clothes without exception. They used this discipline rarely and when applied the student went to the vice-principal's office.

The German nuns varied depending on the degree of transgression and for the most part paddled through the clothes while reserving direct paddling on the underwear for the special occasion. For these students whacking extended down to the fleshy part of the thighs beneath the bum. If you ask me, getting whacked on the thighs provides more of a sting than on the bum. Most of the time the student was sent to the vice-principal's office but there were times an offense got the teacher so worked up that the kid got the licking right there in the classroom.

The Irish nuns were the most enthusiastic of all three! Following the discovery of two students, a boy and a girl, padding their underwear with tissue paper to ameliorate the effects of the paddling.....forever forward everyone had their whacks over their underwear. The unfortunate boy had to drop his pants while leaning over the table. The girl had the greater burden because she had to keep her skirt hauled over her panties by gripping the hem to waist level. If she let the skirt drape down she got whacked even harder. And no punishment was remanded to the vice-principal.

Thank the good lord that the school got an enlightened head master when I was in fifth grade. He replaced corporal punishment with group exercises in team building and communication. Offenses were still punished but now the penalties were in the form of providing "community service". It was far more effective than corporal punishment if you ask me. When I grew older and became more educated in the nuances of human behavior and the psyche I wondered how this transition affected the nuns. I wondered if some of them felt relieved to learn a better way of shaping a kid's behavior or if some of them felt secretly disappointed because the chastisement served a darker more pathological part of the human psyche.
BadPam · 61-69, F
I noticed that about nuns too, although I must say that they did not hit girls at my school. When I transferred to public high school, however, we got equal treatment!
I went to all girls' Catholic schools and there was paddling (and this is not exactly ancient history -- it is amazing, and disheartening, how fast things have imploded) but I never got it -- partly, I think, because of my parents' rule --get spanked at school get another one at home (unlike you --they euphemistically referred to paddlings as "spankings"😀) --and I was pretty sure that Mom's bare bottom paddling (which I was pretty sure, though never a picnic anyway, would be a real blistering in this particular case) would be much worse than anything the nuns dished out!!!!

Alas there is no paddling at my old school (nor any Catholic school and darn few public schools). Nowadays instead of a rule like that, parents are all over the school, threatening to sue, if they even look cross-eyed at little Jane or Johnny.
luvin2flirt · 61-69, M
I was paddled in high school too...a couple of times...It was a lot better then. The kids didn't have to have all these special classes they do now to make them be good, just a short trip to the principals office is all it took...Usually just one is all it took...
BadPam · 61-69, F
You said it! I quit smoking that very day.
@BadPam: That's the thing about spanking/paddling that everyone seems to ignore, forget or pretend is not true in these politically correct/permissive parenting times -- it works. I definitely remember consciously changing contemplated behavior because of the looming possibility of a paddling/spanking.
DADDYDEAN · 61-69, M
I got a 10 lick paddling back in 1977 when I was a senior. They could only give 6 at most at one time. I got 6 on Friday after school and had to come back on Monday for 4 more licks. Very embarrassing having to bend over and grab my ankles with my fanny sticking in the air. My principal took his sweet slow time with it to! He made every lick really,really count! Boy was my butt blistered alot like the picture above. And that was through pants! The principal would wait until I stop bending up and down and swinging my poor butt from side to side before he would take aim for the next swat. Man what an ordeal. But better than a week suspension for leaving school and having alcohol on campus. Talk about a sore,sore butt!
BadPam · 61-69, F
@DADDYDEAN: My Mom also gave it bare without exception. Unfortunately my last spanking from her was so severe that when Mom saw the condition of my bottom afterward she cried and apologized. I could not have anything touch it so I went without panties or skirt and just wore an apron around the house, and every time Mom saw the sight of my rear she cried all over again. She promised never to spank me again, and kept her word.
DADDYDEAN · 61-69, M
Boy she REALLY roasted your poor bottom. Some of my hairbrushings were really bad and left my bottom purple and burgundy. lol What in the world did you do that she blistered your bottom THAT badley for?
BadPam · 61-69, F
@DADDYDEAN: I had taken Mom's car without permission and made her late for work. On top of that the Sheriff stopped me and gave me a speeding ticket. But Mom's big mistake was spanking me in anger, which she never did. She always calmed down first. So she went a tad overboard, to say the least. I posted the story if you're interested in reading it.
DallasCowboysFan · 61-69, M
When I was in first grade there was a rumor that there was a spanking machine in the principals' office but I never saw it.

We believed it though.
DallasCowboysFan · 61-69, M
i graduated HS in 79 but I don't recall anyone ever getting hit or spanked...that was beyond us.....a guy smarted off to the Coach and got slapped though. He called his father and the father told the principal that he probably deserved it and not to worry about it.

How did your trip to the doc go.......everything okay?
BadPam · 61-69, F
@DallasCowboysFan: Well I had to spend the night in the hospital after my heart catherization, but I'm recovering nicely at home now.
I graduated in '76 and the paddle was still in use in my state until 1985, so I didn't get away with it.
@BadPam: I am corporal punishment's biggest cheerleader --but paddling kids in front of the class is wrong --I try to even spank my own at home in private.
Pop0159 · 61-69, M
My kids never asked if I or my wifengot paddled in school .. .. The clearly knew it was allowed and used often until tje state baned it in public schools .. .. Private schools still have it as an option and on occation use it .. .. ..

My youngest daughter onces told me she couldn't be paddled in school, they didn't allow it anymore .. .. I told her that the teachers and principal could not paddle her but if I was called to schoolI woulld be allowed to give her a paddling, and I would do it on her bare bottom .. .. She looked like she didn't beleive me so I told her .. .. you best ask your teacher or principal before doing something to get me called .. .. .. I never got called but the conversations went around her school for a couple weeks .. .. ..
BadPam · 61-69, F
Interesting observation. In my state of New York school paddling is forbidden in all schools, and there is no substituting a parent to do the honors either. Of course home spankings are still legal, but highly discouraged.
in our school there is a showcase of various canes that were in use till the 90s in our school... from thin to thick, my parents still experienced those in their school days
Mugin16 · 46-50, M
Well your girls had certainly something to giggling about imagining their mother being paddled! ;-)

But maybe they would suffer the same fate if it had not been outlawed!
BadPam · 61-69, F
@Mugin16: Well you never know. My girls were pretty good in school, and I was too, except I did something stupid and got swats for it.
TheDisciplinarian · 61-69, M
Ack in hs in wood shop class was all boys..except for 1 girl
From time to time she had to make a paddle
The teacher was her forster father
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I had a sadistic teacher in fourth grade-- but despite the SNL stereotype, she was not a nun, but a lay teacher. She whacked kids left and right -- so bad that my Mom (who was permissive parenting's worst enemy) was one of the parents who marched up there and complained. They got rid of the woman at midterm -- I don't know exactly what her psychological problem was -- but she enjoyed torturing little kids in many ways ways besides over-spanking them -- I hated her with a passion though I never got her paddle. They instituted a new school rule that paddlings had to be witnessed and lay teachers had to get prior approval from the principal. The sad thing is that just like pedophiles, these sick individuals consciously work themselves into positions where they can play their sick games -- positions of authority. There is no long term solution --we just have to always be extremely vigilant -- whether it is teachers abusing kids or cops abusing citizens -- always keeping in mind that these diabolical people are very good at deception.
SagePoet · 70-79, M
Also in the fourth grade I had a teacher in public school who took great delight in spanking both boys and girls in front of the class. She used a wooden paddle and she had her favorites to spank and I was one of them, plus the kids set me up. Not a good time for me. They never fired her. She retired years later.@beckychandler:
baddbobb · 61-69, M
i was paddled in school and the licks was so loud and i remember how the office was sweltering hot and smelled really strong like pee,and it was so arousing being paddled,while smelling the strong pee-pee odor inside the public school office
will999 · 70-79, M
I am glad it has been outlawed. I was subjected to a beating or the threat of a beating every day the whole time I was in secondary school. Instead of being forced to show respect the boys expressed nothing but contempt and ridicule for them. If anyone reading this is one of those good-for-nothing stupid lazy child abusers you must be a first class idiot if you really believe anyone respects you for this. We had a derisive name for every single one of you based on some characteristic of your behavior, name or appearance, the exact opposite of what the beating was supposed to achieve. We survived you by laughing at you, sleep well you poor hopeless fool. Pam, teenagers need to learn respect but not this way. The best way to teact respect is to be a living example of something worthy of it. In life as a whole you meet very few people like this, but you never forget them.
will999 · 70-79, M
@BadPam:Hi again. What irks me is the entirely summary nature of the beatings. The arresting officer, jailer, judge, jury and executioner are all the same person with no responsibility to report details of the arrest/conviction/punnishment to anyone else in that system. I do not accept the notion that the beating was an option freely chosen by the student as a preference to other forms of punnishment. How free is the choice if all of the options are offered by the same abuser? Meanwhile our schools all claim to be extremely concerned about bullying. I suggest that they look a bit closer to home, among their own employees.
BadPam · 61-69, F
@will999: Well I think if it is done correctly as a form of "penalty" I think the choices are fair. As for myself, I was sentenced to six days of detention, but I asked for six swats of the paddle instead, and the principal agreed--reluctantly. I knew I had to take a punishment for what I had done, and I think I was very bold in asking him for an alternative, which was not done when i was in school. Bullying does occur when a teacher or administrator sets his sights on a student and punishes him for little or no provocation. Then the matter should be looked into.
@BadPam: Well, I would like to see it back --at least as a "nuclear option" It definitely had a deterrent effect when I was in school. I remember the look on their faces when they came back from a paddling --and a sense dread fell over the whole class. And there were virtually no repeat offenders (at least in the same year). I can remember only one --and that is because it was BIG news. I remember telling my Mom that so and so got it AGAIN --and Mom shaking her head and sighing.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
I was spanked at home....
BadPam · 61-69, F
@nudistsueaz: Behold the results of a school paddling. It doesn't just get red. This pic is similar to what my own butt looked like after six swats.
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nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@BadPam: OUCH
BadPam · 61-69, F
@nudistsueaz: Yeah, I cried a lot too. I was determined not to, but it was too much for me to take.

 
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