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There is always more to the story

There is always more to the story.

I have in the past, suffer from a rare and potentially fatal pregnancy condition called Hyperemesis Gravidarum. HG, as we abbreviate it, has no known cause, no known cure, and no consistently successful treatment. It is marked by violent vomiting, severe dehydration, malnutrition, organ failure, and - in too high of a percentage - death.

According to the larger HG organizations, HG is fatal 25% to 33% of the time. According to the international support group that I help to direct, 16% of HG pregnancies are terminated.

16% of HG pregnancies are not terminated because the mother does not what the child.

16% of HG pregnancies are not terminated because the pregnancy is an inconvenience.

16% of HG pregnancies are not terminated because the mother cannot afford to raise the child.

16% of HG pregnancies are terminated because medical professionals fail to adequately treat the mother’s suffering, to the point that women are dying.

Women are dying because medical professionals are not doing their jobs.

I am lucky. My doctor trusted me. She prescribed medication she didn’t want to normally but realized that the mediciation would save my life.

I am lucky, and a lot of women are not.


I am lucky, because I am alive.

I know women who were admitted to mental wards because their medical professionals thought the condition meant they didn’t want their baby. I know women who had Child Protective Services called on them because the doctor was convinced that the vomiting was an eating disorder and they were neglecting or abusing their unborn child. I know women who have [temporarily] lost their children because of the treatment they sought for HG.

I know women whose organs have shut down. Women who were told, “You are going to die if you do not terminate this pregnancy.” Women who survived the pregnancy, then died weeks later because their violent vomiting cause esophageal tears that became infected. Women who died in the middle of the pregnancy because their malnutrition reached levels so severe that their heart gave out. Women who have died because their wanted pregnancy, their wanted baby, has died because doctors did not treat them appropriately.

I know women who are alive today because they terminated a wanted pregnancy.

And I know people today who, in celebration of yesterday’s Roe vs Wade reversal, know women who could one day be in those shoes.


There is always more to the story.

And some of the leading characters may be people you love.
This is such a complicated issue and people want to pretend that it’s not. I’m very much pro-life in my own life… same as you, but I’m definitely not anti-choice in regards to legislation where the issues become very nuanced and complicated. Thank you for your post. Proper understanding and civil conversation are more important now than ever. Bless you.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 I wouldn't argue that the majority aren't murder, and I feel the same way you do about it in that regard. I am not defending abortion. I am just saying that the total prohibition of the procedure isn't right to me. There are medical necessities at time. Cases like this woman with severe HG, if the mother dies from malnourishment, the baby is going to die as well. I think the answer is to save the life that is possible to save. And as morality can't be legislated, the damage should be mitigated. I don't think partial birth abortions should be allowed without some exceptional type of problem. I think states like Mississippi that want to limit abortion except in cases of necessity to 15 weeks, is a move in the right direction. I think there should be limits but not prohibition. It shouldn't be an "All or nothing argument".
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 NO, society must have the rule of law so that millions of people may live together without being at constant war. When laws are broken, those guilty need to be punished and separated from society so no further harm is caused. The application of laws that are unenforceable are not a benefit but a drain on society. Banning abortion, would you put 1 million women a year in prison? Execute them? Fill up death row with them? The laws that we have must serve Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, and those with no religion.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Roadsterrider I think that is my point.
2cool4school · 46-50, F
@hippyjoe1955
I think that is my point.
. Oh wow so this is a rampant problem with you. I’m not shocked lol 😂
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
Prince William's wife suffers from this so does a lady I follow on YouTube neither saw the need to murder their babies
@Mountainlady16 that was very wrong of them to do, as your choice is very valid. I know for me, there is zero chance I would abort regardless of the circumstances (danger to my life, rape, etc…) but we cannot fight hate with hate, and darkness with more darkness. Light and love.


Bless you and your child btw. 🌸
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@JustGoneNow true I come from a pacifist church we are taught to not hate
@Mountainlady16

Prayer of Saint Francis of Assisi

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace:

where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;

where there is doubt, faith;

where there is despair, hope;

where there is darkness, light;

where there is sadness, joy. 


O divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console,

to be understood as to understand,

to be loved as to love.

For it is in giving that we receive,

it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.
Amen. 🖤🙏

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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
So the idea that pregnancy is completely preventable never enters the equation? Here is a real clue. Rare disease does not good policy make.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 Joe, No, I don't think that murderers should be released from prison, those who cannot follow the rules of society should be separated from it to not cause harm. But, not every killing is a murder. A death caused by someone else is not always a criminal act.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@Roadsterrider only a handful of states will outright ban abortion some states including my own already has they had laws on the book for when this happened
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Roadsterrider The vast majority of abortions are indeed murder. There is no other term that describes it.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
Besises the fact abortion laws make exceptions for medically necessary ones even before roe vs Wade they did
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@AlyAngel I had that in my last pregnancy and it was absolutely awful. I was throwing up non stop from 3 weeks on until I had him and I was on 3 different anti-nausea meds. I got my tubes tied and that was part of the reason. It’s really sad what’s happening in the US.
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@AlyAngel yah I lost a lot of weight and got admitted a few times because I was dehydrated. I had my tubes tied because I couldn’t do it again.
AlyAngel · F
@iamonfire696 i had my tubes removed after this last pregnancy. I almost died after having Jamison, i couldnt go through it again. 3 kids plus 4 bonus kids is enough for me
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
@AlyAngel I am sorry you went through that. I have also had a uterine ablation so there’s no chance for me getting pregnant.

 
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