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There is always more to the story

There is always more to the story.

I have in the past, suffer from a rare and potentially fatal pregnancy condition called Hyperemesis Gravidarum. HG, as we abbreviate it, has no known cause, no known cure, and no consistently successful treatment. It is marked by violent vomiting, severe dehydration, malnutrition, organ failure, and - in too high of a percentage - death.

According to the larger HG organizations, HG is fatal 25% to 33% of the time. According to the international support group that I help to direct, 16% of HG pregnancies are terminated.

16% of HG pregnancies are not terminated because the mother does not what the child.

16% of HG pregnancies are not terminated because the pregnancy is an inconvenience.

16% of HG pregnancies are not terminated because the mother cannot afford to raise the child.

16% of HG pregnancies are terminated because medical professionals fail to adequately treat the mother’s suffering, to the point that women are dying.

Women are dying because medical professionals are not doing their jobs.

I am lucky. My doctor trusted me. She prescribed medication she didn’t want to normally but realized that the mediciation would save my life.

I am lucky, and a lot of women are not.


I am lucky, because I am alive.

I know women who were admitted to mental wards because their medical professionals thought the condition meant they didn’t want their baby. I know women who had Child Protective Services called on them because the doctor was convinced that the vomiting was an eating disorder and they were neglecting or abusing their unborn child. I know women who have [temporarily] lost their children because of the treatment they sought for HG.

I know women whose organs have shut down. Women who were told, “You are going to die if you do not terminate this pregnancy.” Women who survived the pregnancy, then died weeks later because their violent vomiting cause esophageal tears that became infected. Women who died in the middle of the pregnancy because their malnutrition reached levels so severe that their heart gave out. Women who have died because their wanted pregnancy, their wanted baby, has died because doctors did not treat them appropriately.

I know women who are alive today because they terminated a wanted pregnancy.

And I know people today who, in celebration of yesterday’s Roe vs Wade reversal, know women who could one day be in those shoes.


There is always more to the story.

And some of the leading characters may be people you love.
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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
So the idea that pregnancy is completely preventable never enters the equation? Here is a real clue. Rare disease does not good policy make.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 True but HG is a rare form of morning sickness that you don't know about till after pregnancy. Policy shouldn't be arranged around it, but neither should policy be so stringent that revealed conditions are ignored.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@hippyjoe1955 ppl don't believe in taking precautions anymore
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Roadsterrider My aunt suffered from it and carried two babies to term. It happens. That does not mean that abortion on demand is a good thing. Finding the one exception does not make the whole justified.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 I am not saying that on demand abortion is the answer. It isn't up to me to judge a woman who gets an abortion and there will be abortions, there have been abortions as long as there have been pregnancies. The problem will be compounded by making it a criminal action. It would be better in a controlled environment. At least there would actually be doctors instead of criminals with coat hangers.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Roadsterrider Except you are saying that on demand is fine. There is no other way to parse it. Either it is wide open and any woman can have any procedure done at any time in the pregnancy or the state places limits on it. There is no middle ground.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 I think there should be some limits, never have I said any reason any time. Late term abortions and especially partial birth abortions are mostly not necessary. They should be abandoned or used only in the most extreme cases. I can't think of any reason where stopping a birth long enough to kill the baby before it comes out would be better that just letting it come the rest of the way. So yes, I would have limits but not making it illegal. Banning anything just opens the door for a black market.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Roadsterrider So we should let murderers out of prison because banning them.....
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@Roadsterrider u do realize this doesn't make abortion illegal it gives the power back to the states cause it's not the federal government place to decide this
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@Mountainlady16 Yes, I understand that it doesn't make anything illegal, states may decide to make it illegal is the fear of the pro abortion crowd. I am glad the SCOTUS has turned it back to the states, as there is no provision in the constitution for it.
Roadsterrider · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 Joe, No, I don't think that murderers should be released from prison, those who cannot follow the rules of society should be separated from it to not cause harm. But, not every killing is a murder. A death caused by someone else is not always a criminal act.
Mountainlady16 · 22-25, F
@Roadsterrider only a handful of states will outright ban abortion some states including my own already has they had laws on the book for when this happened
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@Roadsterrider The vast majority of abortions are indeed murder. There is no other term that describes it.