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Should a parent be allowed to look through their teenager's phone?

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Personally, I think it's a total invasion of privacy that only teaches the kid, quite accurately, that they can't trust their parent, and that their parent doesn't trust them. I know from experience how damaging it is for a parent child relationship to lose it's trust.

I'm interested to hear other perspectives though, especially from parents.

EDIT 1: On the note of who's paying, it doesn't matter. Once you give the phone to the kid, it's either theirs, at which point they own it and it doesn't matter whether the money came from the parent, then child, or a damn alien, they own the phone; or the phone is effectively on loan from the parent and so isn't owned by the teenager, which is just a great way to teach your kid that you trust them. Totally great.

Talking about cost just dodges the moral question, and replaces it with one about ownership that is totally irrelevant.
I didnt use to think so. But I lost my youngest son to drugs. I would have realized the activities he had gotten involved with. If I had checked his phone, I could have stopped a lot of went on.

Considering the state of the world today, I believe parents do have to check their kid's cellphones.
@JustLikeGreta I’m so sorry, Mrs. O’hara. 😞
UndeadSona · F
Parents own the device (usually)
Parents need have tthe right to be concerned
Parents neglecting to do that when there's alot of red flags could be detrimental

Life sucks as a kid just have to deal with it
RoboChloe · 26-30, F
@UndeadSona It's kind of part of a parent's job to make life suck as little as possible for their kid. And if they do their job right, they should be part of the solution to the suckyness, not part of the cause.
UndeadSona · F
@RoboChloe Parents only job is to make sure the kid survives

Everything thing else is a bonus. Children really aren't entitled to anything beyond the law. Not everything in life is going to be enjoyable and to deny children that reality is a disservice. At the point where most parents would go through a phone the child os clearly doing something they should not be. Sure there's paranoid parents, but there's also parents who are completely hands off when they shouldn't.
RoboChloe · 26-30, F
@UndeadSona I think that's quite a narrow view of a parent's job. I mean, I'm the kind of person that doesn't want parents to be too involved with a kid's life because they could be terrible people, or just not suited to parenting, but even I think they should have more of a role than basic survival.

Everything you do to or for your child teaches them something, and teaching them that their privacy is conditional on a whim is a great way to send a terrible message and possibly give them chronic anxiety.

Think about this scenario: A gay 14 year old boy comes out to his best friend over text, and looks at gay memes and support sites online, as many LGBT young people do. His parents, however, are quite homophobic, and notice that their son is getting quite close to a friend of his, and are genuinely concerned that he might be gay. They start hearing rumours from other parents about what people are saying about their son, and they become concerned enough to look at his phone, and they find out that it's true, at which point they kick him out over it. In this scenario, what the parent thought was a valid reason, to any sensible person, wouldn't be, and it resulted in this kid being homeless, or at the very least treated terribly by his parents. This is the problem. Parents can't be trusted to decide when their child is "clearly doing something they should not be", because they can have warped or horrible views on what their kids should or should not be doing. Guidelines and oversight are sorely missing.

Teachers have years of training and ample oversight for engaging with kids at schools, and have to be very careful with how they deal with those kids. Parents have no oversight at all, until they do something terrible enough to get it, and often have their kids taken away. Kids shouldn't have to wait until their parents do something bad enough to be separated from them to get fair treatment. Kids deserve better. They're people too.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
Obviously they should be allowed to do it. They shouldn't do it, but why should it be illegal/disallowed lol.
MikeSp · 56-60, M
So far, 4 out of 5 parents agree that they should look through their teenager's phone. I agree completely for all the reasons stated. From our collective experiences raising children, we know that their brains are not yet fully developed, and that they make a lot of bad choices. Their executive decision-making skills are not yet equal to the harmful situations they can get themselves into, and their impulsive tendencies and susceptability to peer pressure don't help.

From a legal standpoint, parents are responsible for their childrens's behavior and actions, and can be held civilly and criminally liable. Parents need to know what and who their teens are involved with so they can prevent harm or even death. There is a flip side to this in your example of the 14 yo boy with homophobic parents. Parents cannot simply kick a minor out of their home without arranging a legally acceptable alternative for the child's safety, health, welfare, and education.

In my extended families here, we gave the kids flip phones starting at age 12 so we could call each other for safety and convenience. As they aged, we provided phones with more features. We used location and monitoring apps as needed. Their phones were checked daily in the beginning and we tapered off as they aged and proved they were responsible.

You obviously had some personally bad experiences with your parents and phones, but that doesn't mean that other parents actions are a "total invasion of privacy" or that they can't trust each other. You are looking at this issue from the perspective of your youth and relative lack of life experiences, and we understand and respect that. However, re-visit this thought when you have teenagers yourself and see if you still feel the same.
Yes. The difference between a cell phone and a diary is that a cell phone can get you killed. Kids have died horrible deaths because parents didn't pay attention to who they were talking to and what was being said.
rckt148 · 61-69, M
My home ,my rules
But as a rule if my kids gave me no cause to distrust them ,their room their privacy .
But my job as a parent is to protect my kids and sometimes that means from themselves .
My Kids thought my strictness sucked ,,but now that they are
36,39 and 41 ,they thank me for looking out for them ,even when it made them mad
I am not on this planet to be their buddy ,
But I also practice what I preach ,and that is a big difference .
When my Grandson who turned 18 yesterday says to me "Papaw Mom does not have the right " WOAAAAA hold one one minute
You can take yourself to "Your house " and talk all the trash you want
But under my daughters roof she worked for that she provides for you for free and will continue to do so until you finish school next year ,you need to reel it in .
I will not allow your disrespect ,Have we done anything but make sacrifices for you ? have we not lived the exact same rules we ask you to live by ?
yes sir ,,,then 18 is a number ,tell your Mom your sorry and change your tone
Mom I am sorry ,,
He has been shown respect his whole life ,if its not abused his privacy is his own ,as long as there is no need to question him
He can do as he pleases ,but now he is 18 ,he can go rent his own home too
or be thankful his only worry is to make good grades and show respect that is shown to him
And that is to be truthful and not give cause to have to see if he is lying or not ,
I like being able to say he never lies to me ,I would be crushed to find out he abused my trust ,Like his Mom we talk about everything ,and I mean everything .
So then one day when you have your own kids ,
then answer your own question is checking up on you invasion of privacy
I say your over 18 and thats how you think ,time to find your own home .
Pay you own way ,have your own home ,than its not ones business what you do .
And my kids and Grandkids agree ,they are smart enough to know when they have it good ,we didn't raise dummies ,they know I mean what I say
I walked out of my parents home at 13 ,and I did well
But I eat a lot of oranges and potato's ,it was tough proving I was an adult and no one was going to keep telling me what to do .
I stick by my rules ,when I am not supporting you ,I don't meddle ,its your life .
I pay their phone bill so yeah if things aren't on the up and up, up gonna keep my kids safe or die trying.
@RoboChloe if they're old enough to pay their own I wouldn't. Sure is tell them be careful or whatever. (lecture them)
RoboChloe · 26-30, F
@CallmeHopelessNotRomantic My point is, ignore the cost. Pretend it's free, and your kid's 14.
@RoboChloe no I'm not an intrusive parent but my kids aren't allowed to have certain apps or whatever. I'm not over protective, but I am protective. My 13 year old is lucky she's even allowed to have a phone. A phone is a privilege not a god given right.
In our house the rule was that I didn't go through their personal property UNLESS they did something to make me not trust them any longer. Then I could do as I wished.
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
Wrong....I pay the bill..you’re borrowing it. You screw up I take it away. I will look into anything I want if I suspect you are being stupid. One way to fix it is to move out other wise my rules. Walk the chalk line and all is good.
This is my house...I will look through my son’s iPad and phone anytime I choose, Until he is 18 and no longer under my roof I am the parent.
Straylight · 31-35, F
First of all, great name RoboChloe, I want to go back in time and steal it.

Second, I think a child should have benefit of the doubt and the parents should only look at their phones if the teen has already given a reason to mistrust them. But I'm not a parent, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
flimflam · M
@Straylight I AM a parent and I completely agree. X
SerenitiesScars · 36-40, M
Of course they should be allowed.. In fact if they're wise they should look through their phone as well...

But I wont exactly be getting my kids traditional smart phones with unlimited internet access if I ever have kids anyway... Sites like this one just prove how stupid you'd have to be to let your kids get on places like this... If you're aware of something being bad and want to protect them from it so you do it..

You're not really "Parenting" if all you're doing is letting the kids do is raise themselves...

But I believe in communication above all else.. But I don't believe in "Society" or "Social pressures" raising my children.. They'd be mine and as such I'd try to protect them from the stupid shit random idiots who want to "Influence" them to follow their sheeple groups try to push on them with their false "Truths"
RoboChloe · 26-30, F
@SerenitiesScars I think it's important to consider when parenting that even though you think you're right about everything you think and believe, that doesn't mean that you are, or that your child should think and believe the same things you do. They should be exposed to other beliefs and opinions and be allowed to make their own decisions. They are, after all, their own person, not just an extension of you.

Also, as it is with every generation, kids are generally more technically adept than their parents, and it's a bit naive to think that they won't be able to circumvent the protections you attempt to use rather easily.
SerenitiesScars · 36-40, M
Lol hell no! xD That's just stupid... "My kid hates me now because they were exposed to beliefs that you should hate your parents and blame them for all their problems!" xD And then people wonder why they don't get to have any good memories with their kids and their "Family" they started in life isn't even their family anymore...

Kids will LITERALLY NATURALLY be exposed to all that shit growing up on their own anyway.. It's LITERALLY INEVITABLE!! Your job as a parent is to EXPOSE THEM TO YOUR BELIEFS!! xD BECAUSE YOU'RE THEIR PARENT!! xD No one else is loving them.. Feeding them.. Taking care of them when they're sick.. xD It's bullshit to believe otherwise...

They'll have the majority of their life 18+ to make their own decisions... You have a very short period of time to GUIDE them yourself... xD Your comprehension on everything and how you evaluate it is far off from the reality of the world... xD If you don't get involved with your kids lives then you're missing your only chance.. They're not going to want to be around you all the time when they're already out there living on their own.. And then what do you do? What bond is there? xD If you go down the path you've listed then there is no bond... Just a void because all they would be able to tell people is "My parents didn't RAISE me.. I had to make my decisions on my own growing up and RAISE myself... They weren't involved in my life"

xD Sorry but I don't want to hear my kids talk that way if I ever have kids.. xD That's just bullshit..

LOL!! xD I'm not an idiot with technology... Sorry but they at most would have to go far out of their way to do anything I wouldn't be proud of them for doing.. xD The only reason why so many parents aren't good at things like that is because they couldn't give to shits to educate themselves on it and discover what's best for their kids... xD So they just buy their kids things without researching it because every other parent is buying their kids it.. xD And no one wants to see their kids left out and sad..

xD But a parent who cares, gets involved with every aspect of their kids life.. Their safety is one of those things.. Sorry but I don't think my kid needs to go on the internet to have pieces of shit send them random dick pics?? xD So they wont have internet access... They'll be raised to have an old soul and get their information through books.. xD And the better my kids are raised the better they'll be as adults.. xD And I wont feel as worried when they're ready to go out into the world and make decisions for themselves...
RoboChloe · 26-30, F
@SerenitiesScars Perhaps you need to stop acting like a child yourself and attempt to engage in a conversation like an adult would? Without use of caps lock, emoji, swearing, and needless mocking. Nevertheless, I will try to separate your points from your attitude, and craft a response.

Of course you can try to impart your beliefs and knowledge to your kids. Of course. But trying to limit their exposure to others is detrimental, which was my point. I think it does a disservice to a kid of you don't let them make their own choices. Personally, I have a good relationship with my parents because of our differences, not in spite of them. My parents, like all parents, are flawed. And they had the wisdom to see that, and to not pretend that they had all the answers, or perfect answers. They raised me how they wanted and shielded me from bad influences as a young child, but by the time I was a teenager, they let me make my own decisions and judge influences myself, which is one of the few things I like about my parents' style of parenting.

Being a parent isn't something you do so you can mould another human into a little robot that thinks exactly what you do. Your job isn't to expose them to your beliefs, it's to keep them safe, keep them healthy, help them learn, and help them grow.

People's beliefs through their entire lives are built on the foundations of their time as a child. Saying that they have their 18+ lives to make their own decisions is like saying that a cake has all of the time in the oven to change what it is. A cake can bake for hours, but ultimately what you get out at the end is based entirely on what you put in at the start. Once the groundwork of beliefs is laid, it's incredibly difficult to change it.

Getting involved with your kids life is important and can be incredibly valuable, but that doesn't mean indoctrination and isolation.

If you, as a parent, lose any bond you had with a child the moment they move out, then you've done something seriously wrong. If you've done your job right, your kid should love you. Should cherish their relationship with you. Yes, they want their space, their life, but if the relationship is good, it's not like you never see them again.

It's also important to remember that not all parents are good people, and that allowing parents unchecked power is not generally a good thing.

I know you want to think everything is about you, but unfortunately it's not. I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about parents in general. Sure, maybe you have the willpower, mental capacity, and technical knowledge to raise a child, do your job, and keep completely up to date with all of the new technology and trends when you're 50 years old, but not many people will.

If you genuinely think that not allowing your kids internet access will work, you have another thing coming. By the time any kids you or I have are 13 or 14 years old, internet access is going to be even more necessary and standard for schooling. When I was 16 (over 4 years ago), I went to a school where you had to have an internet capable laptop, and if you didn't, they would provide you with one. 20 years from now, that'll be so standard even for 10 and 11 years olds that most likely nobody will even bat an eye. And besides that, if I had a friend in school at that age who I knew was being deprived of an internet connection in that way, I would have done anything in my power to help them, and I know I'm not alone in that.

The internet is the greatest resource of information on the planet, and it is a vital part of modern life. If you're going to not let your children near it before turning 18 years old, perhaps you're right in predicting a future where the only time you get to influence them is before they can escape you.
freedom45 · 70-79, F
If they know their child is trust worthy then he should have no worries about the parents going through the phone at the same time we all need privacy..I am a firm believer in " The Truth will Set You Free.Being a parent is one of the hardest role's in life as long as the child lives at home there are rules whether we like them or not we at times have no say.Life is tough no matter where we go.
flimflam · M
I think if you've raised your kid right wth good moral compass and values it shouldn't really be necessary. If you have concerns you should be able to have an honest conversation with them about them.

At the end of the day they are going to do what they want anyway.
UserNameSW · 46-50, M
Parents should look at it often. Not in secret, the kids should know exactly when and what is looked at. Everything should be looked at.

This is to help teach the kids appropriate ways to he safe this should never be used to spy.
revenant · F
I am not sure.

If the parents suspects there is something going on and the kid is depressed and there is nothing apparent..maybe a bully around

I think it depends on the parent and the kid. Some parents are very sanctimonious and some kids well whatever their personality : too shy too introverted, fearful, etc

The relationship between parent and kid : is it strained or is it easy. Things they talk about etc.

The age also. A 18 year old should have more privacy than a 11 year old.
flimflam · M
But equally, if you have concerns about your parents looking at your phone, maybe you should question why?
Butterflykisses24 · 51-55, F
no unless there is a real concern of safety or something.
Montanaman · M
It's personal, like a diary.
@Montanaman Except diaries can't result in having a kids picture on a milk carton, or a memorial.
Well...look at it from the parent’s point of view: You have someone living in your home, someone for whom, if a minor, you’re legally responsible. If they appear to be in trouble and are not forthcoming about the problem, you don’t have a lot of options. I don’t think parents should snoop just to be nosy, kids do need some privacy. But checking the phone if it’s an issue of their kid’s safety or well-being ? Especially if the parent is paying for that phone ? Absolutely.
Thehippienerd · 41-45, F
Who is paying?
RoboChloe · 26-30, F
@Thehippienerd This isn't a question of ownership, it's a question of morality.
Thehippienerd · 41-45, F
Ha.
Are they underage? Who pays for their phone? Are they giving them reasons to suspect they are doing something wrong?
RoboChloe · 26-30, F
@Itsmrsockmonkey Of course they're underage, if they're adults then it's probably a crime of some description. The whole "who pays" argument is probably one of the worst in my opinion. It just dodges the question of morality and passes it onto some notion of ownership that is entirely irrelevant. As for whether they're giving reasons to suspect, you kind of have to consider all options when thinking about this I guess.
Kinemortophobia · 36-40, M
Yes, especially if the teen is still living under the parents roof and aren't playing for the phone.
Wiseacre · F
No, unless they're accused of a crime.
RoboChloe · 26-30, F
@Wiseacre Fair enough.
Ajz59852 · 36-40, M
RoboChloe · 26-30, F
@Ajz59852 Any particular reason?
Mrsbetweenfatandfit · 26-30, F
Best way is to have the info run to the parent from the kids phone. But just not say anything to the kid. Don’t bring anything up unless it’s a real danger to the child. Kid thinks they have privacy and parents know what’s going on with their kid.
RoboChloe · 26-30, F
@Mrsbetweenfatandfit Well that's Orwellian and terrifying.
Mrsbetweenfatandfit · 26-30, F
@RoboChloe life’s pretty scary. but I’m sure if any parent who has lost their teen in a way that was later found to be discussed all over their devices. they’d go back invade that privacy in a second. But we’re in theory not talking about those cases I guess.

 
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