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My Grandma said to me, ‘I just haven’t had grandchildren yet!’ I have 2 kids. She doesn’t consider them grandchildren I guess. How should I take this?

My dads mother and father, bless her that we are lucky enough she’s still alive at 87. She’s an otherwise wonderful woman. However despite my father being extremely successful in his college and career, he was always the black sheep really for unknown reasons between his 2 older sisters. One time he cried telling me how they never came to a baseball game of his, or saw any of his architectural projects, never said they were proud of him.

We see them about once or twice a year. I sometimes talk to her when I have time. Well recently, my grandmother said to me while on the phone random sentence then, “gosh you know, it’s a shame we just don’t have great grandchildren yet, I hope we get to one day before our time is up” meaning before they pass away.

And I said actually you have 3! My brothers son, and my 2 children. And she said well, you know (aunts kids names) just haven’t had children yet.. and I was like oh! Haha yeah sure!…

I just really can’t seem to get it out of my head and it sure makes me sad. It makes me wonder if she really ever thought of us as grandkids. My aunts children spent so much time with them and they just jump at every opportunity to see them… I cant imagine having grandchildren and segmenting them that way, and not considering your great grandchildren your great grandchildren.

My dad has acknowledged to me that he’s always been the black sheep of his family despite being wildly successful and actually very famous here locally in his career..his parents always favoured his sisters and their children.

Anyone else relate? Since they are so old would you just take this in stride and just kind of not care about it?
bentonlake · 70-79, F
Brainless people happen. I recently had to admit that about my parents.
RedBaron · M
Don’t make it your problem.
@RedBaron This is the best advice I've seen on this question.

@Brassm0nk3y Whatever "secret" is behind it, treating grandchildren and and great grandchildren differently is inherently petty and toxic, and you are probably better off keeping that toxicity at arms length. Their toxicity is NOT your problem and it won't get fixed this late in life.

I'm not saying don't investigate; just be aware that only toxic people would pursue resentments or whatever to the length that they're punishing great grandchildren.

Is your father maybe the child of an earlier marriage or an out of wedlock niece or nephew they were somehow forced to raise as their own? Did they threaten to disinherit your dad at some early age and feel compelled to follow thru on the threat? Who knows?

Your dad probably knows, but if it's been his choice to keep it secret this long he probably won't tell. Still, have a frank conversation with him about it; maybe he'll tell the story after they've passed away. Another resource is your cousins; they may have heard some clues. And it would be interesting if you and a first cousin were to do some DNA testing and see if you do in fact share 1/8 of your DNA.

Regardless, you should only investigate if you can keep it at arm's length emotionally. Take @RedBaron's advice and don't let the toxicity spill into your children's lives.
Carissimi · F
Unless she’s suffering from dementia, which it doesn’t sound like it, then it’s probably because you only see them once or twice a year, and she hasn’t bonded with you and your children, like she has her daughter, as she sees her all the time. Still, she does have you and your brother as grandchildren, and your children are her great grandchildren, so I understand being upset about her comment. I’m afraid, you’ll have to live with their odd perceptions, like your father did.

Of course, the woman could be passive aggressive, or a narcissist, given the fact that she never gave love or praise to your dad’s achievements. Her ignoring him does not sit well with me. There is something very wrong with a mother who treats her child that way, so it’s just as well you don’t see them often.
Cloud7593 · 46-50, F
@Carissimi And it's odd because most people favor sons over daughters, especially a narcissistic parent.
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
I know with your dad's history of being the black sheep like you say, it's hard not to, but try not to take this personally. She's old enough and the brain lags sometimes, I mean even in us younger people it does, so imagine at her age. Also since you don't see her often or don't call often and your children seem to not have relationship with her it's easy to forget. Maybe with your aunt and your cousins they are closer and she's anticipating to see great grandkids from them so much. Differentiating between kids & grandkids isn't right of course but I think it's futile to be upset about it now, for your own well being. You can try coming closer with her unless you feel like that door is closed for you and don't want another disappointment.
Dv8rs · 18-21, F
Yes to your last sentence. They don't have much time. If I were you, I would keep reintroducing the grandchildren to them, who knows, they may catch on.
Redstar · 36-40, M
@Dv8rs They don't need to "catch on". They are her great grandkids and she just completely dismissed them. She's already made it clear she hasn't accepted them as her great grandchildren, so why should they keep trying to get her to accept them? They're much better off without someone like that.
She could be on her death bad and it wouldn't change how disrespectful, hurtful and wrong what she said/did is. She's the one who needs to "catch on" to what kind of person she's being... or will be remembered as.
Redstar · 36-40, M
I don't know why you say she's a wonderful woman. A wonderful person would never say what she did. And there's the way she treated her own son.
Is she loved and adored? Does everyone think she's just lovely? She just sounds like one of those two faced people that everyone thinks are great but it's all just an act. It's best to just stay away from those people because they specialize in pretending to care, understand and give phoney apologies. You just can't trust them, even if they're supposed to be family.
Personally, I consider someone like that to merely be blood related, not family.
ArtieKat · M
My Grandma said to me, ‘I just haven’t had grandchildren yet
Run that by me again.......... Why are you talking about great-grandchildren?
Redstar · 36-40, M
@ArtieKat She mistakenly didn't type the word "great" there, that's why in the rest of the post, she's talking about great grandchildren, obviously.
ArtieKat · M
@Redstar OK, got you
Brassm0nk3y · 36-40, F
@Redstar yes thank you!!
Cloud7593 · 46-50, F
Just write it off as not worth worrying about. She sounds like a terrible person. Parents who treat kids like a black sheep are the ones who miss out.
Eddiesolds · 61-69, M
Thats sad just walk away. At 87 she might be losing it,in her head.
I have a sister in law whose parents are jerks. My brother and his wife have 2 sons. One they would buy skins and take skiing for Christmas. The younger son would get a toy from the dollar store, if anything at all.
with their own children, I can't say they have a favorite to love. But a favorite to be cruel to, and it's whoever makes the most money.
Family is hard.
dale74 · M
Aske her if she needs someone to pull the plug
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I wouldn't take it in stride I would literally ghost such people and make sure my parents don't talk to them either of possible.

And possibly say I wish my grand mother was alive to see her great grand kids right on her birthday when everyone is listening.


Sorry I got upset after reading the post.
Disgustedman · 61-69, M
Well, mom treated me shitty, so as revenge, I never married or had kids. The family name dies with me.
justanothername · 51-55, M
Ouch. Ask her why she doesn’t consider your two children as her grandchildren?
Older ppl forget things might have been one of those moments.
That´s sad but it is not your problem.

 
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