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Should I clean his room at home while he is in the hospital?

My son lives with my mom. He has been into drugs for awhile, but its gotten much worse lately. Last night I went to my mom's (she's on vacation) because my son (26 years old) called saying he needed me. I stayed on the phone with him because he was in a panic. He had doubts it was really me on the phone with him and wanted me to tell him stories about when he was young.
When i got there I discovered he had severly injured his finger on the attic door when he thought someone was up there. He believed a fly had laid eggs and was living in his ear. He also believed someone was framing him, the CIA was in on it, and that they were purposely putting look alikes of people he knew around him to mess with him. He was unable to hold still, complained of pain in his head, and kept jerking his body around.
He said he'd been taking opiates like oxys, fentanyl, and that day done meth.
He wanted to go to hospital so i took him. They gave him a big tranquilizer to finally knock him out because other drugs hadn't worked. He's been there since last night and vitals are fine.
Should I clean all the paraphernalia out of his room? Isnt it slightly easier for a person to start to recover from illegal drug use if they dont come home to a bunch of drug related things in their room? Would I be overstepping?
WelshLovely · 46-50, F
Should is a word that causes so many problems in the world of mental health issues.

I'd ask his healthcare professionals for advice - he has to be the one who makes the decision to give things up and if you remove everything he has, you run the risk of him turning to more dangerous ways to obtain replacements.

Good luck, it's a hard place to be x
RedBaron · M
Seems like he has more serious issues to deal with than the stuff in his room. IMO, you should focus more on being there for him and less on housecleaning.
morrgin · F
@RedBaron thank you for your honest feedback, it's appreciated.
It would be very caring for you to clean his room. And yes, I think getting all of the drug paraphernalia out of his room is a good idea. But I think it's going to take more than that to get him off of that chemically and psychologically addictive stuff. It's going to be important to find some recovery help for him very soon. He'll soon be having withdrawal symptoms and will need some professional help to get him off of the drugs in a safe way. In combination with that, he'll need counseling to get to the pain he's covering up with the drugs. If the underlying issues aren't addressed, he'll just go back to using. Most importantly, he's going to have to want to turn his life around. If the willingness isn't there, all the doctors and therapy in the world aren't going to do any good.

Best of luck with this.
morrgin · F
@PhoenixPhail he was totally willing to go to detox and they have beds open but now all he cares about is getting blue pill
@morrgin So long as he's on the road to recovery, even if it's just the beginning of the road, it's the right road.

You said he was totally willing to go to detox.
Is he now not willing? 😳
REMsleep · 41-45, F
I cannot believe that you are even asking? He's probably not going to change right now because addiction is lifelong, treatment benefits from a network of family and professional help and most importantly is never successfully treated until the user is ready to say yes.

But....That is your mom's house. She can and should immediately authorize removal of all your son's illegal paraphernalia. You are an extension of your mom. Thats your mom and you should protect her from your son. Remove the drugs STAT.
Your mom's life is also at risk. As an addict whom Im sure pays no rent, he has no say in this. Stop enabling him. Its killing him faster than if you did not.
He needs much professional help. Detox, therapy, coping mechanisms, psychiatric help, job assistance.
He needs alot!
Good luck to you.
Fungirlmmm · 51-55, F
I will be praying for your son on this journey. Now to your question, i would do whatever his health care provider told me to do.
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
I am so sorry you are going through this. I'm going to be honest with you speaking from experience. There is not much you can effectively do to help/force a person suffering from drug addiction if they don't want help. You could remove the items and it's a great thought. But realistically he is just going to go back out and get it all again when he needs his next fix
morrgin · F
@DeluxedEdition thats what im afraid of. Im kind of wondering if many people who use fentaynl ever get to the point of getting help? Or do they just get to that point and die?
DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F
@morrgin There are plenty of people who recover 🙂
Noclue · 56-60, M
Yes. You should clean it out. It helps
ButterRobot · 51-55, M
That's a really tough one. What's his reaction likely to be if he comes home and the stuff is all thrown in the trash ?

I'm kind of inclined to think he needs to throw them out as part of the process.
Penny · 46-50, F
i think that would be a good idea. drug intervention is not overstepping especially when its seriously harmful stuff like that
InstructHer · 56-60, M
Sorry to hear this but I think you should clean up and give him the best chance.
Jenny1234 · 51-55, F
He needs long term rehab and he needs his mom. Why isn’t he living with you?
Jenny1234 · 51-55, F
@TH3S10GUY1 what younger child(ren). None mentioned in op
TH3S10GUY1 · M
@Jenny1234 she has at least one child at her home is why i stated my comment.
morrgin · F
@Jenny1234 his 12 year old sister is with me
GerOttman · 61-69, M
Wear gloves, be careful what you touch!
melbeacher · 61-69, M
It wont matter unless HE wants to recover.
Absolutely you should get rid of that stuff. You don’t want it to be any easier for him to get back into the habit of using. And not having the paraphernalia accessible will help his resolve to stay clean. I’m sorry this is the situation. Addiction is a horrible disease. 😞
He sounds super paranoid.. i don't really know what helps but hope he feels better 😐
Ofcourse. He needs to get rid of drugs. He is young. Be with him and support him.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
It sounds like schizophrenia to me.
MethDozer · M
@JimboSaturn amphetamine overdose often presents identically to schizophrenia.
morrgin · F
@MethDozer i discovered his main drug of choice above all others is fentanyl
What advice did his psychiatrist give you?
morrgin · F
@softspokenman he just called to be picked up
Iwillwait · M
Yes, clean his room take nothing out.
Montanaman · M
Do it! Do it now! 🤗😇🙏🤗
He doesn't need to go home, he needs to go to rehab
morrgin · F
@aboveaverageaveragejoe supposedly he is going to detox today
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
Ordinarily, I'd say yes, but he's got schizophrenia. You don't want to do anything that will mess him up further.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@MethDozer I'm going to assume you're an expert on the side effects of meth, Mr. MethDozer.
morrgin · F
@LordShadowfire i could most likely get a job as a drug counselor some day. Still no expert. I do like Dr. Carl Hart though.
morrgin · F
@LordShadowfire oops i thought u were asking if i thought of myself as an expert lol
MethDozer · M
Absolutely. 100% without any doubt. For his benefit, along with reprecussion, and also because it is your mother's house.

I don't mean to he harsh or rude but he has proven himself to be incapable of caring fo himself at this time by calling you to take him to the hospital and it is also unreasonable to be bringing that into his grandmother's home. There's no reasonable arguement for you not to.

 
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