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Lucid Dreaming Trouble

Bit of background first, I try to lucid dream most nights and I keep a dream journal to both keep track of all my dreams and to enhance future ones.

The dream started like this - I was trying to enter my mom's number into a phone, but no matter how many times I tried, it just wouldn’t work right. The phone seemed to flicker with an unearthly light, the numbers shifting and dancing like an enchantment gone awry.

Frustration grew, and I paused, a whisper of doubt crossing my mind. Almost like I was being possessed by another dreamer.

Suddenly, I found myself in a moonlit forest. An altar stood before me, candles flickering with an otherworldly flame. The air was charged with the presence of something powerful, and I realized I was not alone. Shadows danced around me, figures with glowing eyes watching from the darkness.

A voice, deep and resonant, broke the silence. "You are at the threshold of power, but you turn away." It was then I realized I had stopped myself from dreaming, from embracing the full potential of the dream. I noticed demons lurking at the edges of my vision who seemed to mock me, their laughter mingling with the rustling leaves.

The realization hit me hard, and I woke up with a start, sweating. I had been so close to unlocking something profound, only to let it slip away. Lucid dreaming, and indeed all dreaming, is a sacred journey, a realm where we can tap into hidden truths and unlock the vast reservoirs of our imaginations. I keep asking myself today why I failed to harness the transformative power of my own subconscious last night and was so frightened I had to stop myself.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
That was a cool dream.

The only thing I learned through lucid dreaming is that I lack imagination. 😅 When I finally have power to create whatever I like, my head is empty and it's almost always just my common everyday surroundings. Only three times I was actually able to create some interesting environment around me. Also, anything sexual is off table as I'd wake up before anything could happen.
I never tried to induce lucid dreaming, I don't even know how would that be possible to force intentionally. It comes randomly, fleetingly and is closely tied with sleep paralysis so I don't really have any good reason to attempt to induce it.
After all, I realized that the surprise element of regular dreams is way more valuable than the control and predictability I'm supposed to have in a lucid dream.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@CrazyMusicLover I had to chuckle at your comment about sexual dreams.

I have very few, and they are more romantic than erotic. In fact I had one only a couple of nights ago. I recall the first time one of my dreams wandered vaguely towards erotic, I woke up because at the time I was still very naive and innocent, and literally did not know what might happen next!


I had no idea you can induce any sort of dream, "lucid" (however you define that) or not.

Dreams are fleeting normally. I think they compress time and remove our perception of it, so a "story" set over say, an hour, is over in moments.

I've not knowingly had sleep paralysis (if I am asleep at the time...) but have occasionally had those unpleasant falling sensations. I think those and their comrades-in-fright, pressure and floating feelings, could be behind some of the most common "ghost-story" themes from the past, before their physiological reality was found.
CrazyMusicLover · 31-35
@ArishMell They are really disappointing. 😅 When I realize I'm dreaming I either get very serious about it, feel trapped and believe I have to wait till I wake up or I get the upsurge of crazy childlike joy and eagerness, test flying ability in the room first and if it works, I fly out of the window. Once I had that upsurge telling myself "I'm going to summon this person now and do stuff" but just as the person appeared I realized I was going to wake up so I had to suppress it all and quickly invent a new scene. 🤦🏻‍♀️
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@CrazyMusicLover I know what you mean.

Errr, worse than that. I have very nearly injured or even killed myself by omitting the test procedures. These were nightmares based on escaping some imagined physical danger such as being about to be trapped by a vehicle, and I think associated with stress and other problems at the time.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Why, though? What do you hope to achieve?

We cannot help whether we dream, nor our dreams' contents.

They are thought to an effect of the brain's internal "housekeeping". The brain needs us to be asleep while it gets on with its vital self-care work, while also keeping the rest of alive. Dreams often reflect real memories but rarely if ever have any real "meanings", "interpretations" or "hidden truths" - whatever they are.

(Those people who claim to be able to "explain" your dreams are mistaken at best, charlatans at worst.]

Your last paragraph suggests you want to worry needlessly about something genuinely harmless, meaningless and out of your control; and I wonder where you have gained these ideas.

Stop worrying over this mix of cod-psychology and amateur mysticism, wherever you found it. Let yourself sleep properly, let your brain look after itself - and you - while your are asleep, as it should!
SparklyPrincess · 18-21, F
@ArishMell I understand your perspective, but my experience with lucid dreaming has been profoundly different. It's not just about the dreams themselves or trying to decode them like some mystical riddle. It's about harnessing the incredible potential of my subconscious mind and exploring the depths of my creativity and imagination. I’m trying to connect with the deeper layers of my consciousness, to understand myself better, and to unlock my full potential. It’s not about worrying needlessly; it’s about embracing the opportunity to grow and evolve. Many of my lucid dreams do not worry me at all! I respect your opinion and concern, and don't worry I do let myself sleep properly as well!
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@SparklyPrincess Thankyou for explaining it.

I do have extremely well-detailed dreams but curiously even when they are supposedly set in real places (including my former work place!) or include one or two real people, the locations are very surreal versions of reality.

I recall dreaming about work only once when I was working - and I was on holiday at the time - but have done so several times in the years since I retired.

Otherwise my imagination - or whatever it is that generates them - creates totally new locations, indoors or out, based on little or nothing I have ever seen! Yet the people in them are usually just vague palimpsests; or perhaps one is recognisable and the others are vague and out of focus.

I've also had unpleasant dreams of the type I think called "hypnagogic", for me at least, hallucinations created by seeing real objects in the very low light while almost asleep, and my mind distorting them into strange and even threatening things.


Have you ever dreamt music, as something "heard" but not "seen"? I recollect this only twice, the first time when I thought my parents had gone to bed but forgotten to switch off a radio downstairs, as I could "hear" an operatic soprano signing. Yet I was too young to know anything about opera or art-songs, and did not like those genres at the time!



As I say, I don't believe in "interpreting" dreams or trying to use them in any way, but I know there are many anecdotes of people waking having solved some problem in their sleep. Instead, I am intrigued by what may be happening to construct dreams.

If, as I gather is the accepted theory, dreams are a by-product of the brain refreshing and re-storing our memories, that may account for the work dreams. Yet why would mine go and totally invent finely-detailed settings, or warp real ones into bizarre versions? Odd!
Ananke · 26-30, F
You are being directed to connect with your higher self. There were no demons don't worry. It was a misunderstanding. Miscommunication. The laughing was not to scare you or be cruel. It was because...you were being silly in being afraid to reach out to yourself and it was funny. Sorry. That was insensitive.

Best of luck connecting!! I hope that information helps you and helps you feel less anxious if you were!
SparklyPrincess · 18-21, F
@Ananke Don't worry about it! I appreciate your honesty and I think there's a lot of truth to it!
pikminboy · 26-30, M
nice thing.. i remember i also was chasing lucid dreaming, i was writing notes of my dreams but i stopped doing it many long ago, because sometimes lucid dreaming can also equals to nightmares
That’s fascinating are you going to continue to where the rabbit hole leads or back off?

Have you got that spooky doll yet?
SparklyPrincess · 18-21, F
@Starduster79 Oh I am definitely going to push further! Felt like I was on the edge of something huge and I'm not one to back down in the face of fear.

I actually have not received the doll yet! These things take awhile to materialize sometimes 😅 But I will certainly update on that when I do get it!
Mudkip · 31-35, M
I thought I was having a lucid dream the other day by how it started. But it was sleep paralysis, and it drained me so much. I woke up sweating and with chest pain.
496sbc · 36-40, M
Really cool i think i have then to
496sbc · 36-40, M
@SparklyPrincess ohh ok so there is a big difference
SparklyPrincess · 18-21, F
@496sbc Vivid dreams can be incredibly lifelike and intense, but in a lucid dream, you're aware that you're dreaming and can even control the dream to some extent
496sbc · 36-40, M
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
I usually have anxiety dreams, like unseen gunmen are shooting at me. I don't see profundity in my dreams. They're directed by David Lynch and Sam Peckinpah. Last one was someone cornering me by moving furniture in my way, then aiming a pistol at my head.
SparklyPrincess · 18-21, F
@uncalled4 I totally get what you mean! But you know, I've found that sometimes even the most unsettling dreams can hold a deeper meaning if we're willing to explore them
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
@SparklyPrincess It doesn't take much to decode most of them. Dealings with my job or relationship, any of those could have represented the furniture in the way. Maybe even the music business. So much is open-ended. It could be any of a dozen obstacles.
All of my lucid dreams involve me walking around trying to find my destination when I'm outside, when I'm inside I'm trying to find an exit door.

 
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