If a homeless person in need set up camp in your backyard

@cherokeepatti So where should homeless people with drug or behavioral problems go if they aren’t welcome in shelters or the city in general?

@cherokeepatti Right, so after they screw it up I'm obviously asking about

@AlienTheExtraterrestrial I checked the daily arrests and One got arrested a few days ago after arriving at the largest shelter and it was for fondling a child forcibly….this is the type of thing we don’t need in our neighborhoods. There are arrests every day at the shelters for drug or alcohol violations, warrants, violence or threats of violence etc. How can an ordinary citizen be trusting these people to stay in their backyards? Even one of the men who manages that shelter said it was dangerous for an interviewer to be inside the shelter when it was occupied and it sounded like that included at mealtimes.

@cherokeepatti So where do they go?

@AlienTheExtraterrestrial they’ll break into businesses that are closed down, homes if the occupants are away, storage sheds, go to the wooded areas and camp out & leave litter and garbage laying around. And some of those places get burnt down. There was an elderly man that was sick & in the hospital for 3 weeks, he lived a couple blocks from the shelter. When his daughter brought him home his found that his house had been trashed, feces smeared on the walls, trash everywhere, and bedbugs everywhere. The home was in such a nasty shape that he couldn’t live there any longer, his daughter took him home with her. If you ever get a chance to find the movie, Viridiana, it has English subtitles. About a nun who inherits her uncles mansion and wants to turn it into a shelter for the homeless that she saw in the town. She lets them move in and not long after the maid’s daughter needed emergency dental work. She drove them out of town to a city and stayed overnight to get it done. When they got back home the mansion had been trashed. It may have been a fictional movie but there is a lot of truth in it. You can house people who are chronically homeless but it’s very likely that you’ll never change their ways.

@cherokeepatti You really don't want to answer, huh?

@cherokeepatti So you want them to steal spray paint and destroy their brains? That's what you're telling me?

@AlienTheExtraterrestrial They do it anyway. It’s not my choice or my responsibility to be there to stop them is it? Not all but a good portion of these transients don’t want to follow rules, get a job and pay bills. The city has given some of them vouchers and the landlords are finding that they trash the apartments in short time. They aren’t wanting to rent them apartments due to the cost involved in fixing the damages and cleaning these apartments up.

@AlienTheExtraterrestrial Your house.

@Adrift yeah agree….when I wanted food on the table and somewhere to live I went out and got a job and busted my butt. I guess that’s too old-fashioned for some these days.

@cherokeepatti we have plenty of shelters here but they wont use them because they have to be clean.
We also have acces to mental health and addiction resources but like the old story goes, you can lead a horse to water...

@Adrift exactly. We have social workers that will help the homeless get their papers so they can apply for housing help and other benefits. They’ll help them get their birth certificates, their social security cards and other things they need. Forty percent of those they reach out to help refuse the help. They don’t want to cooperate in helping themselves. I have to wonder how many of those don’t want their identity discovered because they may be running from the law or owe child support or something else. And they’ll stand around and beg or even threaten individuals in an attempt to get money from them so they can buy alcohol and drugs. They don’t have any intention of straightening out their lives. Who in their right mind would want someone like that camping out in their back yard?