You know, I am not a Trump supporter by any means at all.

@Rokan No one behind him was shot, there was no bullet, it was all staged, two angles of video footage proves it, from 0:36 to 0:51.
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@NativePortlander1970 its reported a retired fire cheif died. Im not going to argue what did or didnt happen by someone who wasnt even there on the internet. If a real investigation shows different in the future so be it but right now you are propoganda.

@Rokan Right now I'm seriously scrutinizing video footage of the incident, footage that looks very suspiciously lacking evidence.

@NativePortlander1970 i understand what you are doing but to properly do the actual physics on this you will have to go in person to do the measurements and the math.

@Rokan I have been around firearms all my life, I have seen what bullets do to objects, how fluids within them spray out, NONE of that is seen in those 15 seconds.

@NativePortlander1970 ive been around them all my life too im a country boy who hunts and ive gone to war 3 times. There are lots of different factors.

@Rokan When I was going through police candidacy over 30 years ago I was invited to numerous interagency classes, which included forensics on gun shot wounds and video footage of people being shot with different weapons and calibers, someone should have shown a reaction, even slumping after being hit, no blood was shown spraying from either an entrance or exit wound, no one showed being slattered or sprayed red with that person's blood.

@NativePortlander1970 thats what ive been say it doesnt add up.

@jehova It doesn't add up one bit.

@NativePortlander1970 its about views and sensationalizing the entire thing. It turns trump into a false idol and justifies his unrelenting senility.

@Rokan Your point being, what? I know what I saw in those films and videos, an AR style would have allowed the "shooter" to get those three other shots off by the time Trump reacted to duck down, why did the "shooter" go for a head shot instead of the more sure upper body shot. NOTHING adds up.

@NativePortlander1970 im agreeing its highly suspiscious

@jehova My thoughts exactly, but I wouldn't say senility, I'll say insanity.

@NativePortlander1970 also agree.

@NativePortlander1970 because the shooter was probably inexperienced and knew nothing of guns to begin with. Could have been a 22 rifle in the style of an AR for all you know. The only thing you have proved is nothing because you are watching videos from a couch in your living room not doing an actual inperson investigation. Your mind was made up before any real information has been given out and you are chasing ghost at this point.

@NativePortlander1970 the two might be synonymous?

@Rokan and is not your conclusion also premature? In time all the details will be found probably not released to the public.

@jehova i havent made a conclusion if that wasnt clear yet. Im saying there is a lot to be factored in and it wont be from a 15 second video.

@jehova this whole turning trump into a idol thing seems farfetched. He is already an idol to his people and a villian to the rest. The libitarians and other indenpendents such as myself aren't going to start thinking emotionally and subjectively over this event. Maybe a small minority but it won"t be much.

@Rokan 15 seconds is almost twice the time needed for bull riding, it seems like an eternity to them, it's also plenty of enough time to see the events of a bullet strike.

@NativePortlander1970 its not enough to analzy the angle of the shot or to know the type and caliber of the bullet or even the skill level of the shooter.

@Rokan as you said hes an idol obviously theyd play that up in continuing his image as an idol. Im over it and was whie it was happening. It was a publicity stunt he is bankrupt and does need money and feee press. Thats it

@NativePortlander1970 you watched a 15 second video and declared yourself an expert without knowing a single varriable and resort to insults as a last resort that seems like you are a very highly edicational person.