This has been true since the the oldest of times, every generation resents the next once they've grown old enough to realise how to be a socially intergrated person but then forget who they were before that, thus they lose perspective and see the next as these sort of untamed and aggressive/ignorant people forgetting where they started in the first place.
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JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@Spectrum it's hardly negative judgement, it's damaging
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@Spectrum why when it's expressed that what you're doing is damaging can it not be taken merely as something that is wished that you stop doing?
@JovialPlutonian To the younger person? I think some people don't learn right away or it isn't put in a constructive way. Whenever i had strangers tell me off for something it was the ones that explained it to me and made me feel silly that actually stuck rather than someone older than me cursing at me.
eg. When i used to smoke on the way to school i'd have people in their 40s fake coughing at me and i just looked at them like passive aggressive idiots, then one day a sub teacher walked by and said:
"Hey, you know you're one of the older ones now and there are kids walking to school around here, they're going to look at you and do what you do and it's not really fair to kids is it?". It just clicked after that as i'd never thought of it that way and i was like "Yeah no you're right actually" and i didn't smoke in front of kids after that. There just isn't that community sense of guidance.
eg. When i used to smoke on the way to school i'd have people in their 40s fake coughing at me and i just looked at them like passive aggressive idiots, then one day a sub teacher walked by and said:
"Hey, you know you're one of the older ones now and there are kids walking to school around here, they're going to look at you and do what you do and it's not really fair to kids is it?". It just clicked after that as i'd never thought of it that way and i was like "Yeah no you're right actually" and i didn't smoke in front of kids after that. There just isn't that community sense of guidance.
I had the advantage of having to parent myself, because I knew the things my parents did were very wrong. My life always felt wrong until I had my son.
I feel like his biggest supporter in this society. I scoff away a majority of the expectations, treat him with patience, kindness and even/especially respect. He's not spoiled, or mean, or loud, or gross, or out of control. I teach him, I spend all my time with him. And I don't do it to be the opposite of my parents either. I do it because I want to send a good person out into the world and I want him to be happy and resilient.
It's sad to see him get treated like an object by others. An annoyance. A, thing. I don't know what is happening with people and rearing children these days but I see it and I wonder how it will effect the future. Change is inevitable. Evolution. I gotta help my boy be strong. Not squash him into a cage and get mad when he bites back.
I feel like his biggest supporter in this society. I scoff away a majority of the expectations, treat him with patience, kindness and even/especially respect. He's not spoiled, or mean, or loud, or gross, or out of control. I teach him, I spend all my time with him. And I don't do it to be the opposite of my parents either. I do it because I want to send a good person out into the world and I want him to be happy and resilient.
It's sad to see him get treated like an object by others. An annoyance. A, thing. I don't know what is happening with people and rearing children these days but I see it and I wonder how it will effect the future. Change is inevitable. Evolution. I gotta help my boy be strong. Not squash him into a cage and get mad when he bites back.
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@StokedFox this was very nice to read, encouragement is so powering. I wish all parents would do the same.
StokedFox · 36-40, F
@JovialPlutonian thank you. Kids are so naturally cool and curious, they're wonderful. I also look really young and older people call me a baby or a novice almost daily. They really have no idea how tough my heart is and what it's been through. It's blatant disrespect and a need for power that can destroy sacred bonds. What are we teaching each other?
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@StokedFox fear

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Can't argue with that
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
Thank you for your honesty@SW-User
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1455spd · 31-35, M
Juvenoia. It’s a term worth looking up. It’s been going on for at least 200 years since newspaper pieces and magazine became widely available, because there are articles going back even then when the older generation harshly criticized the younger
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@1455spd yeh of course but in evolved communities the youth are seen as very valuable as they are the future.
plungesponge · 41-45, M
Age envy. I remember in my mid 20s when the only people who still called me "young man" were old men. It stems from insecurity that a person isn't the center of the universe
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@plungesponge sounds more like they haven't learnt to empower themselves so they take it from their children.
I think it’s just bitter people that miss the “good old days” and are living in the past. Hence, you have the whole “this new generation is so sensitive and lazy” when it’s the older generations that raped the economy leaving younger people with scraps and debt.
As far as parenting, a lot of people don’t bother to use resources on how to parent their kids better and just go off of what their parents did to them.
As far as parenting, a lot of people don’t bother to use resources on how to parent their kids better and just go off of what their parents did to them.
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@Insomniac100 but if you didn't like how your parents treated you then why wouldn't you take parenthood as an opportunity to give your children the childhood you would of wanted for yourself?
smiler2012 · 61-69
jovialplutonium not resent as such lack of tolerance and understanding of them and there attitude and I will put my hand up and say I am a little that way at times
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@smiler2012 hey?!
nedkelly · 61-69, M
Where is your evidence to back up your statement?
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
@nedkelly well they oppress the youth from parenting to sexuality to education to employment.
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
Obviously I'm not referring to all!!!
Sysstem32 · M
Do you have kids?
JovialPlutonian · 36-40, M
Nope and this is a good thread to start@Sysstem32
Mamapolo2016 · F
If you're stupid, selfish, narrow-minded or nasty, unfortunately parenthood doesn't cure that.