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I Am Interested In Yoga And Meditation

Mind is everything, cause of happiness/disappointment. if we don't know it properly, then our life is like a beggar who lives whole life sitting on a treasure-chamber, which he never thinks of opening it and simply consider it a rusted one and life long remains as a beggar only, so called things which one think and react as happiness is not truly happiness, True-happiness comes out of no-thinking , it is just a feel of freedom. why this thing coming under meditation bcz when one goes to the state of meditation, then only one can have true feel what exactly happening inside and out. and True-happiness-> no thoughts, disappointment/frustration-> cause of full of thoughts.
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What is meditation? Why to meditate?
What is no thoughts? Is it possible?
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Yes it is, meditate- means "To attend" in simple you are trying to bring attention to something. and what's we do in meditation trying to bring concentration at one thing and focusing on it.

No thoughts means, not having those thoughts which distracts one's state of happiness.

No thoughts, is possible but if that has to happen then one should suppose to practice certain things, simply it doesn't happen.
If meditation is done in proper sequence for a while then one can truly feel the "experience of no thoughts".
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Who is "you" ?
Why concentrate when it's attend? Isn't concentration an act of will or thinker? Isn't will an act of self centered activity?
Why should I ignore or suppress or keep aside some thoughts to enjoy others? They are thoughts, part of my brain?
Won't it be like controlling left hand with right hand, then isn't it a struggle?

Isn't practice, a method, rules or system? Won't it be like a horse with blinkers on it?
Does river flows on it owns or one has to make it flow in certain direction? Doesn't it happen simply?

What is the sequence? If it is, won't it be episodic? But life is whole thinh, is it episodic?

Who is the experiencer here? Isn't analyser is analysed?
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you truly get answer for this question "Who am i". if you could do so, then you will be having the answers to all of them.

I can say thousand things about the taste of honey, but it does nothing to you, unless you really taste it.

Aspects of life can't understand with just dialogues these things can only be understood through real life experiences.
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And if I taste honey.. make ot a memory, then won't it start desire to have more honey or make it boring because I already tasted it..where is the lively ness or creative aspect of it?
Isn't this is happening with meditation all around the world.. hours are increased.. more cozy rooms or mantras or lines or breathings..yet we are still attached to one method or technique?
One who doesn't know about it, will he be living bad life?
So isn't it has become a fanciful endeavour of city crowd.. something marvelous..where as meditation is every moment... the observation..the subtle emotions..not a method like cooking but the observation of everything around..Isn't it sir?
Because senses works through memory of it..meditation can go beyond it,then?
What is experience? Isn't it memory, thought then experience collected..stored..used whenever needed..can we have a fixed experience for a emotion or person? Then it's self centered activity..memory is gone, dead..life is not dead..living things cannot be put in words or experience...
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You are missing something there, i mean you ," i " get to know that first, then everything gets clear.
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How will you understand I, when him or her is outcome of memories,So experiences?
So if I tries to understand,it will still in circle of it's own thoughts.. which is what they tell in meditation system or practice.. like self hypnosis.. so Can I observe without it's past or pride, prejudices or memories.. so thoughts understand thoughts.. nothing like No Thoughts.. No Thoughts means amnesia.. there are no good or bad thoughts..there are just thoughts..observe ...
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ok i will put certain things here, get to know more about it
1. athato brahma jignasa.

2. punarapi jananam punarapi maranam

3. na jayate mriyate va kadacin
nayam bhutva bhavita va na bhuyah
ajo nityah sasvato 'yam purano
na hanyate hanyamane sarire
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These are words sir... dead things.. which are outcome of memory.. how would a layman or tribal or someone who doesn't know such language to understand and observe?

Isn't that the monopoly some people enjoyed over others.. fanciful description..in the end just words..where repeater giving the meaning..and getting hypnotised...
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that's right, that one is a Sanskrit lang, BTW it is also not the language which i speak, but the reason why i placed those things is, It tells about certain things which you are asking about, i have spent years to know about them, and still doing the same. Try to find your own way, everyone's path of realization is different, no river flows in the same way it neither has the shape nor the specific direction but it does have a set end point, and reaching that destiny is important not the path you choose.
These are the paths you can choose, Path of meditation, discrimination, devotion.
if still want to know more, this is where i learn many things https://sites.google.com/site/swamiramateachings
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Sir, let us discuss here..not divert it through any lines or ideas about life..as we can see those are just words.. every language have it's own philosophy and method to say.. and they hate each other..in order to show the purity..
Let us talk about the water.. not the river or how it flows.. or where it meets, why to think about destiny, isn't that a pseudo idea created to push people or to follow some gimmick to attain nirvana or whatever fanciful names we can give. At the end of the day we are still sad, confused,greedy..let us talk about it..the process.. one has read many books or techniques ( done for years) .. all fail in front of living entity called Life..
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I don't discuss about it, it will not bring anything as such, instead you can do self introspection, where you will have dialogue with your inner voice. The greater the relationship you build with it, higher the knowledge you can get.
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Knowledge? What is knowledge?
Isn't it ..memory, thought,experience and knowledge..is there a fresh or new knowledge at all? Or it's just twisting,modification of memory.. so knowledge is limited sir..past..dead..
Ex. One sees a flower..as symbolic we call it rose, does it tells you everything about rose? Does rose knows it's rose?

But the thinker..human have tendency to take this knowledge into psyche..and identify it..so everyone has own idea or thoughts about rose..does rose even care about it?
So can a thinker..analyse with all symbols or knowledge at all? Won't it be in his own web, circuit..vicious cicrle..?
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Why can't we discuss sir? Like friends.. Isn't life is all about discussion.. we are not debating.. isn't it?
Posting or saying something is this or that..is act of forcing things..unless we discuss.anf see the truth, loopholes in it..one cannot find clarity..isn't it?
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Why we can't discuss is, whatever i say you won't be understanding unless you experience it in real-life. only then one can understand about life aspects, that is what i do, i don't discuss instead, if something i want to know then i will try to find my own way to know about it practically. By theory, just with words i have answer for all questions but practically i don't have, so theoretically knowing is not like completely being aware of it.
I started questioning everything since from childhood, and i did get answers to some extent but still i lack practical knowledge.

Knowledge is the awareness means possessing the consciousness, being aware of the reality.

Level of possessing the consciousness talks about the ones position in the path of self-realization.

there are four states, waking,thinking, sleeping state and final one is turia.

Right now your consciousness lies in waking state only, you have control over you, only when you are awake. you don't have any control while you are thinking and sleeping. the goal of meditation/dyana is to gain all those knowledge and to hold control over all those states. when one could able to achieve that then he will have invisible powers which an ordinary person can't even think of.


Formation: to answer "who am i"

A living being comprised of body->senses->Mind->soul. that sequence represents the state of consciousness, like tamo->rajas->satva->state-less in english Ignorant->tentative->auspicious->transcendental respectively.

Further knowledge is divided into three parts conscious,unconscious and universal consciousness.

A person with the feel of body reality possess waking state consciousness and represents oneself with body and thinks of senses and cannot go further in thinking beyond to that. i mean at this stage one cannot think of mind.

like that it goes on till mind. but next one is the highest one.
that is the state of soul, even if one is in the state of mind-consciousness still cannot think of soul.

why! bcz mind gets its energy from the soul, mind is like a drop of water compare to river(soul). and further if one could achieve the sate of soul-consciousness then only one can know who is the "GOD(Ocean)".
i did not bring the concept of "GOD" so far bcz if we don't even know ourselves first, then we can't know about "GOD". if we really want to know the GOD, then first we need to know about ourselves completely.

people say where is soul, how it is, many questions are there but "Truth is soul- is formless(nirakara). mind does not have the power to think of soul, instead it derives, works from the energy of soul. that's why no one is above to give any sort of form to soul.

If you ask me what is one's goal, i say "self-realization". but achieving that goal is like just the beginning, if that is done, then only one's true life starts. i mean one won't be restricted to anything, one can go to anyplace, anywhere not just the earth, regardless of planet, universes , cosmos, and beyond.

What we are living is just on one earth, like this there are countless planets are there, and as per the ones progress after ones death(soul leaves the body) he would be eligible to go further higher planets other than earth based on what one could achieve in one's lifetime.

What above i have mentioned, is what has been said before thousands of years ago, it is not my own thinking. each and everything of it can't be understand just like that, it requires practical knowledge with one's own personal experiences.
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@TakeMeToUrWrld: sir, you are still writing what have been said.. so just words. The moksha, nirakar, kundalini, energy and all..one has read and done things.. it's still a knowledge.. tell me which you have experience?
And what is experience?
One tells you this is red..it becomes memory.. thought experience.. we carry this through out our life.. so experience is past, memory..dead thing..Knowledge is dea entity..so if you say you have experienced it or knowledge of it..( which is repeatation of books, stories) it's still dead..can humans create any living? .. thought is dead so whatever we create will be dead..nothing sacred about it.. however cunningly we analyse.. so if you say you have experienced, it's dead.. can you see it?
Nature is not dead..it's creative..look around .. what have we done.. 5000 thousands years of knowledge is waste.. tell me now?
Knowledge is time.. as it's based on memory..if you recognize something means you had memory of it..so past..so dead..
What to do with dead knowledge or enlightenment?
What are those levels? Why we need levels? To create hierarchy and rule the world.. that's what many gurus did..they fooled people.. it's happening all over the world..why can't we discuss what we have been told?
Being in illusions gives pleasure..a sense of satisfaction, which is limited..the appetite for knowledge is always incomplete.. can we see this?
Why to wait years when one can be now..and be happy?
There is no psychological time..
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Practicing them yields unique strength and experiences are distinct to one to another, i can't put them in words, i don't want to talk about my strengths bcz if I talk about it it is kind of limiting factor to my progress so I don't talk about it. And that wasn't my intension at all.
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Why we have to do this, meditation, exercises so and so.. Is bcz you are not alone, you have been surrounded by certain forces by which results in negative mentality and purpose of practicing them is to generate positive energy which keeps one in healthy life. Thanks all. If one is healthy then one can achieve anything that's all the basic motive behind practicing them.
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What is experience?
What is negative energy?
Are there psychological opposites?