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An important aspect of science is being open to and even seeking out that which might disprove your theory.


While i am no scientist, to this end i would like to hear from you folks regarding what evidence you feel shows that evolution didn't happen or couldn't happen.

Also, if you have any questions or criticisms of evolution theory, i would be happy to address them to the best of my ability.
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gregloa · 61-69, M
An important aspect of God and Christianity is being open to and even seeking out that which might disprove your theory. I would like to hear from you regarding what evidence you feel shows that Christianity or God didn’t happen or couldn’t happen. You said creationists scientists fail trying to find support for their beliefs not testing it against reality??? You’re not realizing this bold statement doesn’t make any sense. If you know what you’re talking about here then you know that it’s faith based rendering your statement baseless and obviously incorrect. Christianity doesn’t deny evolution it simply believes God created it. As you know time and time again unbelieving scientists find themselves or their theories wrong. I wonder why? Obviously non believers such as yourself refuse to believe because it condemns you and you falsely believe it condemns evolution. It doesn’t, but it may not absolutely agree with what scientists insist is absolutely the gospel concerning reality. Then they discover the flaws in their theory and are struck with the question how could they have been wrong. But yet they are very much trying to find support for their beliefs and always manage to find an excuse for why they were wrong and an explanation that they hope and expect the world to accept proving that once again they are right. Did you hear what I just said?? If you have any questions or criticisms of Christianity, I would be happy to address them to the best of my ability.
@gregloa

Do the math

lol not really sure what you mean by that.

But it sounds like you accept evolution and the old age of the earth. So if you go ahead and look up a bit more about how radiometric dating works and how we know it's reliable then i don't know that we have too much more to discuss in the context of this post
gregloa · 61-69, M
@Pikachu
Ok then, catch you later.just answer one question. Do you believe in the possibility that there is a God ?
@gregloa

Sure it's possible. I don't think there's any compelling evidence to believe that one exists but it's possible.
In the same way that is it possible that an alien civilization seeded life on this planet though we have no legitimate evidence to accept that this is so.
Yes, scientific theories and models get overthrown on a fairly regular basis. This was well documented in a book by Thomas Kuhn called 'The Structure of Scientific Revolutions' that introduced the notion of paradigm shift.

However, many scientific revolutions turn out to be further enhancements and improvements to the theories they overturn. For example, when Einstein's relativity supplanted Newton's theories of space time and gravity, the changes in predictions turned out to be minuscule for most of the experiments that could be done at the time.

So, with that in mind, I'll link you to an effect which isn't included in Darwin's evolution. It alters evolution and improves it. It's called epigenetic modification. It's a little complicated so I'll just give you a paragraph with link.

Epigenetic modification is a kind of genetic regulation mode that does not change the DNA sequence, and affects the transcription activity of genes by regulating the advanced structure or chemical modification of chromatin. For example, DNA methylation usually leads to gene silencing, while histone acetylation promotes gene transcription. These modifications can be inherited and passed on to future generations, thus playing an important role in cell differentiation and development.
https://www.cd-genomics.com/blog/epigenetic-modification-types-applications-diseases-development/
@ElwoodBlues

Yeah it's almost lamarckian evolution which was wrong but kind of right in the broad concept?
@Pikachu Yes, it is a little bit Lamarckian, especially in the way environment can sometimes alter traits in the next generation or two. However, epigenetic changes only last a few generations, and can only affect the expression of existing genes.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
That basic principle is so of science generally, not just evolution and its related studies.

It upsets some people because they are afraid of the sort of uncertainty, questioning and revision upon which science relies, thrives and progresses.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Pikachu Are you a middle-manager or business consultant, by any chance...? :-)
@ArishMell

lol nah. I work outside
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@ArishMell I can agree with this because many are afraid of change in anything.

Everything changes though.
walabby · M
I view the evolution question as unimportant. God, if there IS a God, could well have used evolution to achieve his/it's, aims... After all, he/it uses Newton's laws of motion to orbit the Earth around the sun, etc etc... ?
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@walabby

Weeeellll kind of. But i think it can only be viewed as unimportant in light of its ubiquitous acceptance.
We us it for medicine, agriculture and even technology.
Cyclist · 46-50, M
The (true) idea that every step along the way, and not only the end product, needs to provide an advantage can be difficult to imagine. How did a fish fin become the leg of a stem reptile? The fin works well for the fish. The leg and paw work well for the reptile. But all those intermediary stumps had to work better than the one before it.
@Pikachu About 6000 - 10000 years ago, a genetic mutation cause a person to have blue eyes. I doubt that conferred any advantage but, crucially, it wasn't disadvantagous so was able to be carried on to the next generations.
@NortiusMaximus

Well that's true. There is also just genetic drift
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Cyclist this is evident how in the growth of a fetus. The tail splits.
Contrary to what many laypeople seem to think, scientists try to prove theories wrong. That's how knowledge increases.
@NortiusMaximus

I think that's a big part of where creationist scientists fail. They are very much trying to find support for their belief, not testing their belief against reality.
@NortiusMaximus

lol totally.
Science allows us to make predictions and discoveries.
Creationism can only attempt incorporate new discoveries.
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@jshm2

No dear, that's what greedy, dishonest actors use science to achieve. Like any tool it can be used for ill.

lol i seriously feel like whenever you reply i'm talking to a college freshman who just tried weed for the first time😏

 
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