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Klingwood · 61-69, M
The young earth is not hard for those that believe in a God ,if this God started all of this he could have just as easily made the earth 4 million years old .and just like Adam and Eve they weren't infants when they were created according to the word. So the universe could be billions of years old but only started 6500; years ago . But again it's all faith
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@Klingwood
Yup.
And by that same logic god could have made everything last Thursday. But that gets us no where, has no explanatory nor predictive power and is ultimately a rescue device to preserver belief rather than a meaningful attempt to know what is true about our universe.
Faith is not a reliable means of determining what is true.
Yup.
And by that same logic god could have made everything last Thursday. But that gets us no where, has no explanatory nor predictive power and is ultimately a rescue device to preserver belief rather than a meaningful attempt to know what is true about our universe.
Faith is not a reliable means of determining what is true.
NerdyPotato · M
@Klingwood true, both are possible. The real question is what's more believable: natural age or magic.
Klingwood · 61-69, M
@NerdyPotato why ? Which is more believable,faith has nothing to do with what's reasonable
NerdyPotato · M
@Klingwood and that's the problem with blind faith. Spot on!
Klingwood · 61-69, M
@NerdyPotato faith doesn't have to be blind faith
NerdyPotato · M
@Klingwood it doesn't have to be, but if you consider every possibility equally likely and just pick one that matches your views based on nothing, it is blind.
Klingwood · 61-69, M
@NerdyPotato ahh but it's not at all based on nothing.
NerdyPotato · M
@Klingwood then what it is based on? A book you happened to like more than others?
Klingwood · 61-69, M
@NerdyPotato no start with history . Or the ameIng earth. Or the human body . The list goes on and on
Klingwood · 61-69, M
If anything we can planely see that everything is deteriorating,rust away exactly the opposite of evolution
NerdyPotato · M
@Klingwood I agree that science has been searching and changing, but it hasn't been guessing. When little was known about the new disease, science drew up a plan based on available data and continued to search for more information to change their conclusions to become more accurate. That may not ever be 100% reliable, but much more so than drawing a conclusion on almost nothing and dismissing any new information that contradicts it so you can stick with your original view.
Klingwood · 61-69, M
@NerdyPotato if what you say were true,id agree but
Klingwood · 61-69, M
The things so many have said was wrong in the Bible like the 3 kings they said never existed but then years later discovered the kings has been going on for a very long time. And will continue to
NerdyPotato · M
@Klingwood what makes you think it isn't true? What conclusions did scientists draw that was not based on information available at that time?
@Klingwood
...yeah, that's the point of it. That's what makes it reliable.
The great strength of science as a tool is its ability to self correct given new evidence. In fact it is THE most reliable tool yet devised by humanity for discovering what is true about the universe.
If you disagree, can you suggest a superior method for reliably learning what is true about the universe?
Maybe one day a new discovery will preclude evolution...but not likely. At this stage it would be about as likely as discovering that the earth doesn't orbit the sun.
Science has been guessing and searching and changing answers sin cc e they began!
...yeah, that's the point of it. That's what makes it reliable.
The great strength of science as a tool is its ability to self correct given new evidence. In fact it is THE most reliable tool yet devised by humanity for discovering what is true about the universe.
If you disagree, can you suggest a superior method for reliably learning what is true about the universe?
Maybe one day a new discovery will preclude evolution...but not likely. At this stage it would be about as likely as discovering that the earth doesn't orbit the sun.
NerdyPotato · M
@Klingwood what do you mean? Science is pretty clear that sex and gender are a combination of a position on various spectrums.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Klingwood That's okay that you say that Klingwood... because you also have no issue saying:
But it's not really learning is it... to use your own words:
The young earth is not hard for those that believe in a God ,if this God started all of this he could have just as easily made the earth 4 million years old .and just like Adam and Eve they weren't infants when they were created according to the word.
But it's not really learning is it... to use your own words:
But again it's all faith
Klingwood · 61-69, M
@NerdyPotato sure that's why we have propagating they are cats! Or that a male is a female ,you know exactly what I mean.
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