Well saying God is primate. Narrow minded. Being created in God's image d oesn't mean the physical body because he has not. Being created in God's image means man is the only life form of the Earth that knows the difference between Good and Evil and a spiritual being locked in a earthly flesh body.
Will not be asking you any questions about evolution. Heck not much I don't know about what is called evolution anyway.
@newjaninev2 oh wow, there is too much too much legitimate information out there written in books, reports directly from those scientist, chemist, biologist, paleontologist, if one reads the process of evolution for you to ask the question.
I have been a reader all of my many years on this Earth, long before there was internet.
So I will put it in layman's terms evolution is the origin and process of life upon the face of this planet. Whether One believes the origin of life started from the scientific processes of abiogenesis or panspermia or creation by a highly intelligent being that mankind refers to as God or even in various cultures gods.
@Charity The origin of life (abiogenesis) is not part of evolution.
Evolution is change in the frequency and distribution of alleles.
Nothing more and nothing less.
Evolution by Natural Selection is what happens after abiogenesis has occurred.
We know that abiogenesis occurred, but the specific mechanism has not yet been established, although there are several viable candidates (we may never know). I'd be happy to discuss those with you.
Panspermia is not an explanation for abiogenesis... it merely moves the entire process further away from Earth and adds a requirement to explain the delivery mechanism... let alone that any life arriving here would have needed to be compatible with the environment it found upon arrival.
Postulating magical entities is, of course, in no way an explanation of anything
@newjaninev2 I didn't say abiogenesis was evolution. I said evolution is the origin (meaning start of the process) and process (meaning how it went about) of how life started on this planet.
I said whether One "believes" the origin of life "STARTED FROM THE SCIENTIFIC PROCESS" of abiogenesis or panspermia or creation.
You can't have evolution without a start and either the process of abiogenesis or panspermia or creation was the start which means origin and the origin of evolution.
Read it again, in layman's terms, stated differently but meaning the same / evolution started with either the process of abiogenesis panspermia or creation, is that better do you understand that.
I never said panspermia was an explanation for abiogenesis.
Panspermia is a scientific theory that life, living organisms came from outer space down to earth either through rain or asteroids or https://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/panspermia
Abiogenesis is a scientific theory that life sprung up simultaneously life sprung up from non life. Heck up until a few years ago they couldn't determine where RNA came from and without it life wouldn't exist. Now they just say it too sprung up spontaneously or it came from outer space whichever process they choose to support.
@Charity Perhaps you should work through my comment point by point and address what I wrote point by point.
The origin of life (abiogenesis) is not part of evolution. Before evolution can proceed abiogenesis needs to occur. Before abiogenesis can occur the planet needs to form Before the planet can form several billion stars need to die. Before several billion stars can die spacetime needs to exist. Before spacetime can exist the singularity needs to inflate
You're trying to conflate abiogenesis and evolution into a single event, but in trying to do so you're arbitrarily limiting the number of connections.
Trying to confound abiogenesis and evolution is a deceptive technique used by creationist charlatans, and obviously you want to avoid that, which is why I mention it here.
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Now, as I have already said: Evolution is change in the frequency and distribution of alleles.
It is no more a scientific Theory than is creationism.
Panspermia is a mere postulation... a speculative 'casting about' to bear in mind should we find evidence that the postulation might address.
As I said, it does not address abiogenesis... it simply moves the event to a different location in the universe.
Of course, creationism is also a mere postulation, but there is no compelling necessity to make such a postulation. It explains absolutely nothing (not even itself), so we can simply drop it into the dustbin of history and move on.
As I have mentioned above, I do not know why you keep bringing up abiogenesis... the OP's post is about evolution... a different topic to abiogenesis
@newjaninev2 telling me your post is about evolution! Asking why I keep bringing up abiogenesis I brought up panspermia and creation too. As I said without the process of abiogenesis, panspermia or creation the science of evolution would not have taken place.
As I said there is nothing you can tell me about evolution. Your post: you're in the mood to answer questions about evolution.
@newjaninev2 bring up spontaneously is from the concept of abiogenesis, why don't you study it. Start at the beginning instead of The Middle.
And Christianity is not a simultaneous claim, you know nothing of that either. Creation is the works of a supernatural entity that we call God, forming man from the dust, which is chemicals of the earth. Earth that he also created from the results of the Big Bang singularity when he said let there be "Light.*
That's wonderful - I look forward to an interesting and fruitful discussion with you.
Let's start: What do you think about hybridisation complexes and hybrid organisms as potential models for studying the association between epigenetics and complexity? (I have a strong interest in epigenetics)
@newjaninev2 in my initial comment I said I wouldn't be asking questions. Comments afterwards I stated there's nothing you can tell me.
Reverse psychology works on some I'm not of that number.
Nor would I have a discussion with anyone on sites such as similar worlds concerning chemistry. Anyone who is actually gifted and that knowledge wouldn't either. To learn of such things one would learn from a chemist, even a biologist, or a paleontologist, to which I am neither and if I were my discussions would not be on internet sites but person to person with colleagues in said categories.
It's just far too easy on the internet to make one look as if they are actually knowledgeable. And to be fair the same applies to me but I do and have actually studied the necessities.
Here are some people to have your discussion with since you "love" that type of discussion / try to contact them / bet you will face their refusal. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8303469/.
@newjaninev2 I just had to write this then I will not respond to you again. On a different site I had a discussion with someone concerning evolution and a few days later I was doing some studying online and I ran across what the person wrote word for word, I made the comparison so I learned the internet is too easy for one to use to make them self seem like they have knowledge, like something they are not.
@newjaninev2 you don't stop do you. Do you think I would believe you are honest? If you don't know what reverse psychology means look it up, but maybe younger people don't know the term.
The matter you spoke of loving to discuss, scientists haven't figured out yet they don't know it all and frankly are not sure what they think they know. And anyone else reading this thread type on to that article concerning hybridiZation.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6980311/
I go to the library and read for free, I use the internet and study for free.
Guess I have to end this conversation in a different manner.
@Entwistle a concept is defined as an abstract notion or idea. Ok
If you feel it's not evil to maliciously, murder, to rape, to commit aggravated robbery or even robbery. Ok you feel it's not evil to lie and cheat Ok. It's being such as that and many others that God has classified as evil but if you think it's just a concept let the worst of the world know, there are a handful that may agree with you.
@Charity Where did I say it's acceptable to do those awful things? I certainly don't think it's acceptable to rape,murder etc. However..morality is a concept,so are good and evil.
