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All I want is an environmentalist consumer org that doesn't fall for the organic hogwash

Is that so much to ask? Organic is an environmental and animal rights disaster.
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ViciDraco · 41-45, M
Organic - for when you would rather let most of the planet starve before trusting science and technology.

Organic, much like crypto, is one of those things I am happy to say I've never really fallen for. The logistics of feeding everyone through organic farming just isn't going to work with today's population count. The amount of raw land you would need for that. And organic livestock usually just means they don't give them medicine to prevent sickness or even when they get sick. That's honestly a good way to get some new plagues going. Not to mention the suffering of the sick animals.

Conventional farming isn't the best on animal rights either, but they don't really pretend the way organic does.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@ViciDraco Conventional farming isn't ideal for animal rights, but it's substantially better since it uses synthetic fertilizers instead of manure.