Do you think some members here might be many years younger than their age range?
I mean, some certainly don't act like they are in their 40's or 50's, lol.
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rckt148 · 61-69, M
I actually call men who say they are my/ age out just being rude and acting really immature ,
And younger people do use the word "Assume " a lot
and say "I don't have to respect you because of your age ,you have to earn mine "
Most people my age have been taught 1)Manners 2)respect especially for your elders 3) common courtesy
We show others respect and courtesy ,until they give you reason not to ,,and even then most of us try right on .
Recently I dealt with a man his age not listed so I asked was he a younger man and he replied he was in the same age group as me ,disabled Vet also ,so a lot in common once we talked .
I said I was sorry if he took what I said the wrong way ,he said it was both of our faults and lets start over
That is how mature adults handle things ,,the younger generation lacks that skill ,,so easy to bust when they present themselves to be our age ,,even though when you ask them
they will deny it
But its like someone saying they are Christian and show no fruits of the spirit at all
Same thing applies to a teen trying to pass themselves off as 50 ,,things they say ,,just don't line up
language they use ,,people my age don't ,,,as a rule
And younger people do use the word "Assume " a lot
and say "I don't have to respect you because of your age ,you have to earn mine "
Most people my age have been taught 1)Manners 2)respect especially for your elders 3) common courtesy
We show others respect and courtesy ,until they give you reason not to ,,and even then most of us try right on .
Recently I dealt with a man his age not listed so I asked was he a younger man and he replied he was in the same age group as me ,disabled Vet also ,so a lot in common once we talked .
I said I was sorry if he took what I said the wrong way ,he said it was both of our faults and lets start over
That is how mature adults handle things ,,the younger generation lacks that skill ,,so easy to bust when they present themselves to be our age ,,even though when you ask them
they will deny it
But its like someone saying they are Christian and show no fruits of the spirit at all
Same thing applies to a teen trying to pass themselves off as 50 ,,things they say ,,just don't line up
language they use ,,people my age don't ,,,as a rule
rckt148 · 61-69, M
@Phire1often it all comes down to how you were raised
as to the 10 yrs
10 yrs of the internet changed our world a lot
But not near as fast as 2 planes hitting the WTC
that event changed the USA and friendly people ,Forever
Some young people have no clue what we have lost ,,
There is nothing left of our world to compare it to ,,
Its hard for some to have lived through so much ,paid their dues ,make sacrifices the young can't even relate to
to have someone who has contributed nothing say to them
"Your age means nothing to me ,you have to earn my respect "
Where if it were not for them ,,the things people take for granted now days ,would not even be ,,that frankly have not improved our lives ,its just raised a generations of entitlement and ego's ,no morals ,no self respect ,no patience .people way to quick to be offended ,,over words .
And the sacrifices of those who gave them those privileges
trampled on like our flag ,,,now they have "Rights"
Many frankly are tired of asking for a little compassion ,just a little respect ,so they kill themselves
"Is this what I defended ,is this what so many of my friends are relatives died for "?
And now ,,were not even shown common courtesy ?
Especially the Vietnam Vets ,,
While they fought and died ,come home to be spit on and called baby killers ,,,history now paints the cowards who ran to Canada as the "Smart ones " and the Vets who sacrificed so much as fools ,,,and now ,,,a kid will say to them
I don't owe you anything ,,you want my respect
You have to earn it .
Some of us have given all we intend to give
all we have to show for it is broken bodies ,,
and the VA says most of us aren't even service connected
we live off a small SSDI check
And watch the youth prosper ,,,while we ,,they are forgotten
And some people are just rude because they are ass holes
and no one raised them with manners and respect for anyone ,,not even themselves
Not an excuse ,,just another side to the story
i tried to make it short ,,this is my second attempt ,,sorry
as to the 10 yrs
10 yrs of the internet changed our world a lot
But not near as fast as 2 planes hitting the WTC
that event changed the USA and friendly people ,Forever
Some young people have no clue what we have lost ,,
There is nothing left of our world to compare it to ,,
Its hard for some to have lived through so much ,paid their dues ,make sacrifices the young can't even relate to
to have someone who has contributed nothing say to them
"Your age means nothing to me ,you have to earn my respect "
Where if it were not for them ,,the things people take for granted now days ,would not even be ,,that frankly have not improved our lives ,its just raised a generations of entitlement and ego's ,no morals ,no self respect ,no patience .people way to quick to be offended ,,over words .
And the sacrifices of those who gave them those privileges
trampled on like our flag ,,,now they have "Rights"
Many frankly are tired of asking for a little compassion ,just a little respect ,so they kill themselves
"Is this what I defended ,is this what so many of my friends are relatives died for "?
And now ,,were not even shown common courtesy ?
Especially the Vietnam Vets ,,
While they fought and died ,come home to be spit on and called baby killers ,,,history now paints the cowards who ran to Canada as the "Smart ones " and the Vets who sacrificed so much as fools ,,,and now ,,,a kid will say to them
I don't owe you anything ,,you want my respect
You have to earn it .
Some of us have given all we intend to give
all we have to show for it is broken bodies ,,
and the VA says most of us aren't even service connected
we live off a small SSDI check
And watch the youth prosper ,,,while we ,,they are forgotten
And some people are just rude because they are ass holes
and no one raised them with manners and respect for anyone ,,not even themselves
Not an excuse ,,just another side to the story
i tried to make it short ,,this is my second attempt ,,sorry
Phire1 · 51-55, F
@rckt148 While I understand the struggles of some Vets have and that they have varying reasons as to why they entered the military, I still don't 'worship any flag.' I know that is offensive to some folks.
Yeah, the way people are raised can play a part as to how people become in adulthood, however, parenting is not the say-all of such. There are many other factors; military life is just one example.
I automatically respect people regardless of age, whereas, some believe respect is earned. Some young folks may also think that respect is earned just as some older folks believe the same.
Some folks older than me have seemed to feel "entitled" to respect just because of their age. Not because of accomplishments, not because of being nice, not because of the person they may be; just because of their age.
I was online friends with this guy and his wife a while back. He is only one year older than me but he felt he deserved more respect just because he was older; even though by only one year. He talked to me like I was a child. I was 40 yrs old then, he was 41. He is a Vet, so, that might have played a part in his mind as to how he treated others.
Sorry but, just because a person is a Vet does not automatically mean they are "entitled" to my respect as a person.
I agree that some people will be azzholes just because they feel like it.
Yeah, the way people are raised can play a part as to how people become in adulthood, however, parenting is not the say-all of such. There are many other factors; military life is just one example.
I automatically respect people regardless of age, whereas, some believe respect is earned. Some young folks may also think that respect is earned just as some older folks believe the same.
Some folks older than me have seemed to feel "entitled" to respect just because of their age. Not because of accomplishments, not because of being nice, not because of the person they may be; just because of their age.
I was online friends with this guy and his wife a while back. He is only one year older than me but he felt he deserved more respect just because he was older; even though by only one year. He talked to me like I was a child. I was 40 yrs old then, he was 41. He is a Vet, so, that might have played a part in his mind as to how he treated others.
Sorry but, just because a person is a Vet does not automatically mean they are "entitled" to my respect as a person.
I agree that some people will be azzholes just because they feel like it.
rckt148 · 61-69, M
@Phire1 In my situation ,and I am sorry this is an example about me ,but most of my wisdom if I have any was from being raised by 3 very very wise men
One was a CWO4 officer who commanded 1 of only 2 battle ships the Coast Guard had during ww2 ,,he actually fought for the Aleutian Islands as well as against Korea ,and the world wide war ,,very very wise man
My Dads Dad had not only served in WW1 ,he owned several business that fed our town during the depression and beyond ,His Dad was one of the founders of our town ,,
and many books have been written about both of them ,
My Dad ,a son of a fisherman who helped put men on the moon not once but twice and now kids have the Gaul to say it was all faked ,when all they need is a good observatory ,and they can see the flag we left there ,,and since it was to beat the Russians ,,there would have been no faking them out ,,it was real ,,,so I come from a long line of men who helped make a difference in this world ,,and where I come from our name gets respect ,,mainly because its on everything LOL
Vets have to learn a lot in a short time ,especially the ones from WW2 and Vietnam ,,,Kids drafted to go put their lives on the line for a country ,that now says "Mindless killers ,who blindly obey ,,I owe them nothing .
At 17 during the hay day of Cocaine and Columbia trying to kill us for seizing their drugs ,,
I was stepping on to vessels ,with only "Skipper ,coming about ,prepare for routine boarding ,,
And all I heard every day was "Kid how old are you ? I have underwear older then you ,,seriously ?you think I have to listen to you ,,and with courtesy I had to say
"Sir I represent the United States of America ,,that stripe says I am a federal law enforcement officer ,,either comply or I will end your trip and terminate you to the dock for non compliance ,Please produce the items requested and this can be over quick and you back under way
To be able to do that 25 times a day or more ,while also saving lives and some times being shot at as they tried to out run us ,,,it was a mind set you don't turn off
Its a must to gain respect ,,I don't have to earn ,they have to respect the uniform and who I represented ,,
So I am sorry if some of us still believe we earned it
putting our lives on the line so others didn't have to or so others didn't die needlessly ,,we were there to save them ,
And 10 yrs ,,even only a few years
Our country went from a mandatory draft ,to I was able to join during peace time ,obviously I volunteered .
But many my age ,were taught manners and respect as a child
Our ability to deal with jerks ,,was honed serving our country ,,even if no one appreciates the sacrifice way to many made ,,even putting men on the moon came with a cost
But I very much respect you ,,your honesty and your kindness
even if the only way I know how to express myself short of with orders ,,is with a story I hope others relate to
Have a good one ,,it is always a pleasure talking with you ,,
I am sorry if others do not show you the respect you deserve
I understand though ,,I was not shown any respect ,I had to learn how to demand it ,,and see it was given
But I try to be respectful ,,in my day it was not requested
Our elders demanded it ,,,and no one put them in jail for showing you why you should
Men were men ,,when Ships were wood ,and men were steal
One was a CWO4 officer who commanded 1 of only 2 battle ships the Coast Guard had during ww2 ,,he actually fought for the Aleutian Islands as well as against Korea ,and the world wide war ,,very very wise man
My Dads Dad had not only served in WW1 ,he owned several business that fed our town during the depression and beyond ,His Dad was one of the founders of our town ,,
and many books have been written about both of them ,
My Dad ,a son of a fisherman who helped put men on the moon not once but twice and now kids have the Gaul to say it was all faked ,when all they need is a good observatory ,and they can see the flag we left there ,,and since it was to beat the Russians ,,there would have been no faking them out ,,it was real ,,,so I come from a long line of men who helped make a difference in this world ,,and where I come from our name gets respect ,,mainly because its on everything LOL
Vets have to learn a lot in a short time ,especially the ones from WW2 and Vietnam ,,,Kids drafted to go put their lives on the line for a country ,that now says "Mindless killers ,who blindly obey ,,I owe them nothing .
At 17 during the hay day of Cocaine and Columbia trying to kill us for seizing their drugs ,,
I was stepping on to vessels ,with only "Skipper ,coming about ,prepare for routine boarding ,,
And all I heard every day was "Kid how old are you ? I have underwear older then you ,,seriously ?you think I have to listen to you ,,and with courtesy I had to say
"Sir I represent the United States of America ,,that stripe says I am a federal law enforcement officer ,,either comply or I will end your trip and terminate you to the dock for non compliance ,Please produce the items requested and this can be over quick and you back under way
To be able to do that 25 times a day or more ,while also saving lives and some times being shot at as they tried to out run us ,,,it was a mind set you don't turn off
Its a must to gain respect ,,I don't have to earn ,they have to respect the uniform and who I represented ,,
So I am sorry if some of us still believe we earned it
putting our lives on the line so others didn't have to or so others didn't die needlessly ,,we were there to save them ,
And 10 yrs ,,even only a few years
Our country went from a mandatory draft ,to I was able to join during peace time ,obviously I volunteered .
But many my age ,were taught manners and respect as a child
Our ability to deal with jerks ,,was honed serving our country ,,even if no one appreciates the sacrifice way to many made ,,even putting men on the moon came with a cost
But I very much respect you ,,your honesty and your kindness
even if the only way I know how to express myself short of with orders ,,is with a story I hope others relate to
Have a good one ,,it is always a pleasure talking with you ,,
I am sorry if others do not show you the respect you deserve
I understand though ,,I was not shown any respect ,I had to learn how to demand it ,,and see it was given
But I try to be respectful ,,in my day it was not requested
Our elders demanded it ,,,and no one put them in jail for showing you why you should
Men were men ,,when Ships were wood ,and men were steal
Phire1 · 51-55, F
@rckt148 There are plenty of people who are not kids who think the moon landing was faked.
There are people who do not like it if another person 'demands' respect.
As for the example of the Vet I mentioned earlier, he felt that just because he was older that it was ok to treat others like this is their first day on Earth, with disrespect, etc. His Vet status did not change my mind about how he acted. His being a male did not change my mind about how he acted. That is another aspect; he may have also felt that because he is male that he can treat females a certain way. He surely did not appear faithful to his wife (just throwing that as added bonus upon the description of him).
I'm guessing you've seen the quote about treating the janitor with the same respect you'd treat the CEO, right? That's how I view it. But, of course depending what kind of person they are towards me/others.
There are people who do not like it if another person 'demands' respect.
As for the example of the Vet I mentioned earlier, he felt that just because he was older that it was ok to treat others like this is their first day on Earth, with disrespect, etc. His Vet status did not change my mind about how he acted. His being a male did not change my mind about how he acted. That is another aspect; he may have also felt that because he is male that he can treat females a certain way. He surely did not appear faithful to his wife (just throwing that as added bonus upon the description of him).
I'm guessing you've seen the quote about treating the janitor with the same respect you'd treat the CEO, right? That's how I view it. But, of course depending what kind of person they are towards me/others.
rckt148 · 61-69, M
@Phire1 I am a man that comes onto a job with an envelope full of letters of recommendations from every employer I have ever had ,even 2 who fired me ,,policy ,I broke the rules
They tell me I am over qualified and I ask for the lowest job on the totem pole ,work for $5.00 an hour for 30 days ,,
then ask them what I am worth
One guy gave me a 50 cent raise ,and when I laughed he fired me
I week later when I come for my last check ,,
He was fired ,I was rehired ,with a substantial raise
soon I was the GM ,,I am the janitor who gives his best
I do everything I do as if its for God ,no short cuts and finding ways to improve the quality of the end result
Now my name and reputation gets me calls from millionaires asking will I please just come and supervise the job ,,
But I know me ,,I can't watch ,I have to work and I am not able to anymore ,,
We had a code in my day in the service we stole from the Marines ,,Death before dishonor ,ours was
Semper paratus is the motto of the United States Coast Guard and it is defined as meaning "The definition of always prepared." An example of semper paratus is what a United States Coast Guard member will say is his motto and is the reason he is ready for any emergency.
we were always ready to save lives ,and part of that is dealing with the public ,not as bullies ,,but as servants
Thats what my family and I are
As I said ,you meet jerks from all walks of life and ages
You sound like one ,,I have to earn your respect
You already have mine ,you have shown me some ,and have given me no reason to disrespect you ,
But when people go into things ,,you have to earn my respect when yours could set the tone ,,you kind of get what you gave
They tell me I am over qualified and I ask for the lowest job on the totem pole ,work for $5.00 an hour for 30 days ,,
then ask them what I am worth
One guy gave me a 50 cent raise ,and when I laughed he fired me
I week later when I come for my last check ,,
He was fired ,I was rehired ,with a substantial raise
soon I was the GM ,,I am the janitor who gives his best
I do everything I do as if its for God ,no short cuts and finding ways to improve the quality of the end result
Now my name and reputation gets me calls from millionaires asking will I please just come and supervise the job ,,
But I know me ,,I can't watch ,I have to work and I am not able to anymore ,,
We had a code in my day in the service we stole from the Marines ,,Death before dishonor ,ours was
Semper paratus is the motto of the United States Coast Guard and it is defined as meaning "The definition of always prepared." An example of semper paratus is what a United States Coast Guard member will say is his motto and is the reason he is ready for any emergency.
we were always ready to save lives ,and part of that is dealing with the public ,not as bullies ,,but as servants
Thats what my family and I are
As I said ,you meet jerks from all walks of life and ages
You sound like one ,,I have to earn your respect
You already have mine ,you have shown me some ,and have given me no reason to disrespect you ,
But when people go into things ,,you have to earn my respect when yours could set the tone ,,you kind of get what you gave
rckt148 · 61-69, M
@Phire1 did you read what I said or skim it ?
I said I respect you ,you have shown great patience and kindness to me ,,I feel thats not easy for you ,so I appreciate it even more
As for the guy ,,some of our vets today are just highly trained ass holes ,with no respect for the people they turned from allies into our enemies ,,cultures that respect their elders and females ,,and they robbed them of all dignity
and they were not even the ones who attacked us on Sept 11
But no dear read it again
I said I respect you ,and thank you for the respect you have shown me
BUT if we come at people with the attitude you need to earn my respect ,,instead of giving it regardless
then we get what we have sown ,,
I turn enemies into friends all the time ,
apparently some think I do something right
I said I respect you ,you have shown great patience and kindness to me ,,I feel thats not easy for you ,so I appreciate it even more
As for the guy ,,some of our vets today are just highly trained ass holes ,with no respect for the people they turned from allies into our enemies ,,cultures that respect their elders and females ,,and they robbed them of all dignity
and they were not even the ones who attacked us on Sept 11
But no dear read it again
I said I respect you ,and thank you for the respect you have shown me
BUT if we come at people with the attitude you need to earn my respect ,,instead of giving it regardless
then we get what we have sown ,,
I turn enemies into friends all the time ,
apparently some think I do something right
rckt148 · 61-69, M
@Phire1 I never called you a jerk ,you are honest and stand by your convictions ,,something I very much admire
I myself can be a jerk ,,but I work hard at not allowing someone to pull that out of me
The old me was fairly skilled at eating jack ass's for breakfast ,,but now I represent Christ
I try to always be respectful and patient
Can show someone I am not your average Christian offending them and pushing them away ,,I will go the extra mile with you ,,kind people saved my life
A vet sleeping on cardboard in a hobo /wineo camp smelling like pee from the ground I'm sleeping on
I know the top ,I know the bottom
and I am only filthy rags without Christ ,,that is who changed me ,,my training only made me bold
I myself can be a jerk ,,but I work hard at not allowing someone to pull that out of me
The old me was fairly skilled at eating jack ass's for breakfast ,,but now I represent Christ
I try to always be respectful and patient
Can show someone I am not your average Christian offending them and pushing them away ,,I will go the extra mile with you ,,kind people saved my life
A vet sleeping on cardboard in a hobo /wineo camp smelling like pee from the ground I'm sleeping on
I know the top ,I know the bottom
and I am only filthy rags without Christ ,,that is who changed me ,,my training only made me bold