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True or False?

No star athlete in any sport from years ago would be good enough today. Do you suppose Babe Ruth would ride the bench?
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Gibbon · 70-79, M
FALSE.
I was going to go with Jim Hines the sprinter which I believe he could compete but Braves Leo laid it on thick regarding Babe Ruth..

You better sit down because this is one of the best answers I've ever seen Leo lay out

Bench Status Myth:
Historically, Ruth only "rode the bench" briefly early in his career (1914–1915) as a rookie pitcher before his hitting prowess forced managers to play him every day. The idea that he would return to the bench today contradicts the fact that his primary skills (plate discipline, power, bat speed) are exactly what modern analytics value most. While he might face an adjustment period to 100 mph pitching and spin rates, most analysts project he would still be a formidable middle-of-the-order hitter, likely hitting 35–45 home runs with a high on-base percentage, far exceeding "bench warmer" production.

Untouchable Metrics:
Ruth’s career OPS (On-base Plus Slugging) of 1.164 and OPS+ of 206 remain the highest in MLB history. For context, modern superstars like Mike Trout and Aaron Judge typically peak around 1.000–1.100 OPS in their best seasons. Ruth sustained his excellence over 22 seasons.

Complete Hitter:
Unlike many modern power hitters who sacrifice batting average for home runs (often hitting .240–.260), Ruth maintained a .342 career batting average. He combined elite power with elite contact skills, a dual threat that is virtually non-existent in the modern game.
@Gibbon

Babe Ruth is my favorite athlete of all time. I know all of the above - and much more. Did you know he hit more home runs in 1920 than any other TEAM in the A.L. and every team in the N.L. too (except for Philadelphia).

I used Ruth as bait, obviously :D
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@rinkydinkydoink I was looking for runners and Jim Hines came up but his record never broken was the 100 yard which was changed to 100 meters so it never will be broken
Leo also mentioned Michael Jordan
@Gibbon

Watch this - -

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But if you took athletes from the past and gave them the training, conditioning and all the advantages modern athletes have, wouldn't they also improve?
@Gibbon

Hey! I can see! I CAN SEE!

Gonna watch the remaining 50 minutes or so of Rounders, first. He's playing with some non-weirdos in a long, wood-panelled room - - - oh oh... cops who catch worm (is it?) cheating
@Gibbon

Saw it. He must've been some prick to be killed that way.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@rinkydinkydoink he was a terrorist that was responsible for killing his girlfriend and his partner.
He had built up a lot of rage and the audience built up that same rage with him.
4thdimensiondream · 70-79, M
False. You just can’t make that comparison. The conditioning of today’s athletes, which starts at a very young age, is so different. Not necessarily in a good way. I think athletes are conditioned as if they race horses. Owners think what’s the best way to preserve and protect their property. To me players like Ohtani today, although phenomenal talents, could not hold a candle to Babe Ruth.
@4thdimensiondream

Both are good questions. The game has changed so much. Have you ever seen a triple steal? I don't believe I have but they were a thing in Cobb's day (something else I found out today... Ty Cobb stole home 54 times, btw! 6 of those came via triple steals.)
4thdimensiondream · 70-79, M
@rinkydinkydoink that’s crazy. I think I heard Ruth might have hit more than 715 homers. Back then if you hit a HR in bottom of 9th or extras and there was a man on base, it only counted as a single double or triple. I could be wrong though. Too lazy to research that lol.
@4thdimensiondream

Sounds like a definite possibility.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Reminds me of the possibly apocryphal story about Ty Cobb being interviewed:

INTERVIEWER: "How would you hit against today's pitchers Ty?"

COBB: "Oh probably around .310 or .315."

INTERVIEWER: "But Mr. Cobb you hit .400 3 times! Why do you think you would only hit .310?"

COBB: "Well you have to remember, I'm 72 years old now."
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@rinkydinkydoink Very true. Stump didn't bother to do any research, just did a hatchet job on Cobb. There's a great book, I think it's TY COBB: A TERRIBLE BEAUTY, in which the biographer actually goes back to contemporary documents and does his research and gives a totally different view on Cobb, giving the lie to many of the things we think we know about Cobb.
@ChipmunkErnie

He is one of the old time great baseball players I would've loved to have seen play. Maybe Satchel Paige, too.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@rinkydinkydoink My father actually batted against Paige in the 1930s. No hits, but he was proud at least he didn't strike out, hit the ball every at bat.
AthrillatheHunt · 56-60, M
Wilt Chamberlain could probably put up similar numbers in 2026 as he did back in the day. Maybe Jim Thorpe ?
@AthrillatheHunt

YES about Wilt! Jim Thorpe was a phenom to be sure :D

Jim Brown is considered to be one of the top college and pro football players of all time... oh, and as one of the best college lacrosse players, too.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Watching a video yesterday the changing rules of basketball, quite a lot of today's players would be lost having to play without travelling, palming, turning the ball over, double dribbling, etc. And image today's baseball players with the 14" high-tech gloves having to try and field with the old mitts. And can you see anyone today doing a Wilt Chamberlain and playing every minute of every game of the year except for TWO minutes? Or imagine Ruth's natural talents enhanced by today's scientific training, etc.
@ChipmunkErnie

Nobody hits triples much anymore, either. I don't know what that has to do with anything but I've been wanting to use that in a comment for a long time :D

 
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