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@BamPow Which is a shame because our entire society has been founded on civics, including our government. We literally can't remove it from the discourse.

@FoxyQueen In an indirect way, it’s at the center of the discussion even though it’s not framed as civics, because so much of it seems to involve the tribes fighting over who can and cannot or who should or should not participate.

@BamPow I wish we could get over the chest thumping and just have conversations. It's hard not to be upset, but at some point, we need to quit this Us vs Them ideology and realize we are all sinking on this ship the rich people have already abandoned having completely gutted it of anything valuable.

@FoxyQueen Yeah. The copper pipes were stripped out long ago.

I think people who prefer civil discussion are so put off by it all that they’ve just retreated to the sidelines to focus on other, enjoyable aspects of life. I know that’s been my position for awhile. This thread right here is the closest I’ve gotten to touching that third rail in a very long time.

@FoxyQueen I remember when conspiracy theorists were considered wacko’s, but now those ideas are considered mainstream while facts and empirical evidence and data are thrown aside in favor of the baseless opinions of those conspiracy theorists now. It’s hard to have that discussion if there’s no longer agreement on basic facts.