THIS is what the government is doing to try to combat socialist indoctrination in our public schools:

DISCUSS. Is THIS enough? What ELSE can be done...LEGALLY?

"To accomplish this, the administration is focusing on several systemic and curricular shifts rather than a wholesale replacement of the existing teaching workforce:

Dismantling the Department of Education: Trump signed executive orders aimed at closing the federal Department of Education and returning full control to states and local communities.

Mandating Curricular Changes: The administration is pushing states to adopt rigorous stand-alone high school economics courses that teach the failures of communism and the successes of free-market capitalism.

Restricting Ideology: Federal funding is being used to pressure schools into restricting concepts related to critical race theory and gender ideology.

Credentialing and Vows: Proposals have included establishing new credentialing systems to ensure teachers align with patriotic values.

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ArishMell · 70-79, M

Obvioysly they can't replace the teachers wholesale - where would they find so many replacements? - but it's bit self-contradictory, isn't it?

"full control to states and regional authorities", then "pressure schools into" governmentally-approved party-lines. So not really autonomous but controlled from Congress, or even just the White House.Full autonomy would risk some States teaching only the White House line, some teaching against it, and few being impartial.

Wouldn't they be better for your nation in the long run to teach pupils to understand all economic, political and social ideologies, to compare them, to understand why some succeeded or failed; why some are good or bad; hence decide for themselves what may be the preferable way to run a country, and why? They are the future electorate in a multi-Party democracy, after all, and education is supposed to benefit them, not the contemporary politicians.

Politics on that scale is not binary; either in only the USA or world-wide. There are good and bad in all ideologies and systems, and judging them requires understanding them - which does not necessarily mean agreeing with them.

Your country likes to boast to we foreigners how it is the cradle of freedom and democracy - it won't be if its government tells the nation's children and teachers what to think and how.

Is there a Communist Party of the United States of America?

That policy seems to imply a fear that there is at least in spirit, and as a major electoral force. As I understand it the present US goverment is quite hard-Right Wing; but the Democrat Party somewhere near the UK's Liberal Democrat Party, so a bit Left-wing but not enough to worry anyone with MacArthy-ite tendencies.

Though the USA's L-R spectrum generally seems quite well Right of most of its European nations' equivalent spectra despite a rise in the popularity among them, of far-Right "populism". As led by, e.g., Marine Le Pen in France, and Nigel Farage in Britain.

Incidentally I am no "Communist"... but neither am I particularly Right-Wing.

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Gibbon · 70-79, M

@4meAndyou Next to none. There are still those who question what they are being taught. Those are the hopeful ones.

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@4meAndyou Well, I guess from your attacks on the other lot, which Party you support!

Of course teachers should not be foisting their own political dogma, anti-social "isms", prejudices, ignorance, etc. onto their pupils - but that applies equally to all sides; Right, Left or round and round in circles

I don't know what you mean by "woke". I do know what this slang word was meant to mean when it was coined in the 1930s, maybe earlier, but it now seems to mean whatever the critic wants it to mean, so as evade and deride others' opinions.

The point is that school-children should be taught properly and impartially so they can understand other's actions, views, etc., even if not necessarily agreeing with them.

It is their future that matters, not the the teachers' personal politics and still less those of politicians and bureaucrats.

It matters so they have some chance of leaving school reasonably able to see both sides of arguments, to analyse difficult matters; to question statements, policies and actions; to discriminate between facts and opinions; to decide their own political and social views in a rational way, to avoid falling into mere prejudice and rancour.

They are of your country and only your country can educate them, but the future of your country will be theirs. If they are let down by their elders-and-supposed-betters bickering over what they are to be told to think - or whether to tell them not to think - what hope have they; what hope the country?

Gibbon · 70-79, M

@ArishMell

It is their future that matters, not the the teachers' personal politics and still less those of politicians and bureaucrats.

Exactly
Are you not paying attention to what's being said here.
They ARE being taught that bull💩 not what they should be learning

FreddieUK · 70-79, M

Restricting Ideology:

Isn't that what China, N Korea and Russia do?

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FreddieUK · 70-79, M

@4meAndyou I'm so sorry that you believe that there is so much 'communism' surrounding you that it causes this level of worry. It was the Jesuits who said, 'Give me the boy until he is seven and I will give you the man.' Our schools teach a range of views. Ideology is simply an unquestioned belief. Educated people need to know the difference between indoctrination and information to be able to assess the ideology they are being fed. To deny a range of views to children is indeed, indoctrination.

4meAndyou · F

@FreddieUK THANK you. Indoctrination, is, indeed, what is happening inside our public schools.

If you are interested, here is a speech by Stacy Davis Gates, a Chicago representative of the TEACHERS Union. She is one of the ones in charge of SHAPING the history education our children are receiving.

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