ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
I never graduated or got my GED. When I got my first job my stepmom told me to just lie on my resume that I had my GED. She just said "fake it til you make it".
I've never had an issue with it & I still have no GED. I definitely want one now but I guess I haven't been in a hurry because it hasn't been necessary yet. I know I'm gonna need it if I decide to go to school for something specific though
I've never had an issue with it & I still have no GED. I definitely want one now but I guess I haven't been in a hurry because it hasn't been necessary yet. I know I'm gonna need it if I decide to go to school for something specific though
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Reject · 26-30, M
@ChiefJustWalks Hey! I’m in the same boat my friend. It’s just not necessary. Thankfully my career choice in life doesn’t need one either or I would be deeply considering it.
ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
@Dainbramadge yeah, college or trade school I suppose. Like if I chose a path that required me to have my GED first then yeah of course I'd get it ASAP. But oh that's surprising that I still wouldn't even need it 😅
@Reject I think if you needed to get it, it wouldn't be hard for you & I don't think you'd hesitate on doing it. I pretty much feel the same way as you on the matter. I don't think I have trouble showing intelligence through my speaking & how I carry myself & that usually means more to employers than what a paper says about you. It's no big deal until it needs to be & so far it hasn't needed to be
@Reject I think if you needed to get it, it wouldn't be hard for you & I don't think you'd hesitate on doing it. I pretty much feel the same way as you on the matter. I don't think I have trouble showing intelligence through my speaking & how I carry myself & that usually means more to employers than what a paper says about you. It's no big deal until it needs to be & so far it hasn't needed to be
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In the real world, very few people care how others did in high school or what college they might have went to.
Unless someone is pursuing some six figure career like doctor or attorney, it just does not matter.
Most college courses do little to nothing to prepare one for their "Career" anyways.
I know a lot of people get close to 30 and start to panic because they are not some huge success.
Well because there is one theory that leads people to believe they should be rich by then.
I have seen and heard it too many times. I went through it myself. Waste of time.
Late 20's people figure they will go back to school and earn this degree and suddenly have all these opportunities.
Well all that takes a lot of ambition. If people are not ambitious when they are teens or early 20's, what makes them think they are going to be "career driven" just because they are close to age 30?
Like I said, in the real world no one care about our level of education anyways.
Unless someone is pursuing some six figure career like doctor or attorney, it just does not matter.
Most college courses do little to nothing to prepare one for their "Career" anyways.
I know a lot of people get close to 30 and start to panic because they are not some huge success.
Well because there is one theory that leads people to believe they should be rich by then.
I have seen and heard it too many times. I went through it myself. Waste of time.
Late 20's people figure they will go back to school and earn this degree and suddenly have all these opportunities.
Well all that takes a lot of ambition. If people are not ambitious when they are teens or early 20's, what makes them think they are going to be "career driven" just because they are close to age 30?
Like I said, in the real world no one care about our level of education anyways.
swirlie · F
@Punches
Very true, very few people care how others did in high school or what college they went to, but those people we interact with daily who don't care about our academic achievements are not the people who typically employ us either.
The people who employ us are employees themselves who work for a company that hired them in the first place and then put them in a position of hiring other people to work for that same company.
That company like all legitimate companies would have established 'standards' of minimum 'education' and 'skill' requirements and therefore would have minimum qualifications posted for all jobs they offer.
Both education and skill standards are then enforced by those employees who are in hiring positions themselves who are tasked with reviewing the qualification status of potential new-hire employees who are applying for a job.
It doesn't matter what your friends or neighbors think about your academic achievement in life because your friends and neighbors are not your employer nor should they EVER be.
Who cares about your level of education are the people whom you are standing before during a job interview and therefore are asking them to employ you, but you can't come to the interview table empty handed when you show up for a job interview either.
You cannot show up for the interview uneducated and unskilled when you're 30 years old. You can get away with it when you're 16 and looking for a part-time job after school, but you can't get away with it when you're beyond about 22.
If you are a high school drop out and you have zero experience working in a job that you are now applying for, your chances of getting that job are also close to zero unless the employer is so desperate that they'd hire someone off the street with no education and no work experience whatsoever to do that job. But is that really where you'd want to work in the first place?
This is where the rubber meets the road when it comes to "The real world" you speak of, Punches. The fact that you think people don't care what education you have has nothing to do with the "real world" of business and employment.
In the real world, very few people care how others did in high school or what college they might have went to.
Unless someone is pursuing some six figure career like doctor or attorney, it just does not matter.
Unless someone is pursuing some six figure career like doctor or attorney, it just does not matter.
Very true, very few people care how others did in high school or what college they went to, but those people we interact with daily who don't care about our academic achievements are not the people who typically employ us either.
The people who employ us are employees themselves who work for a company that hired them in the first place and then put them in a position of hiring other people to work for that same company.
That company like all legitimate companies would have established 'standards' of minimum 'education' and 'skill' requirements and therefore would have minimum qualifications posted for all jobs they offer.
Both education and skill standards are then enforced by those employees who are in hiring positions themselves who are tasked with reviewing the qualification status of potential new-hire employees who are applying for a job.
It doesn't matter what your friends or neighbors think about your academic achievement in life because your friends and neighbors are not your employer nor should they EVER be.
Who cares about your level of education are the people whom you are standing before during a job interview and therefore are asking them to employ you, but you can't come to the interview table empty handed when you show up for a job interview either.
You cannot show up for the interview uneducated and unskilled when you're 30 years old. You can get away with it when you're 16 and looking for a part-time job after school, but you can't get away with it when you're beyond about 22.
If you are a high school drop out and you have zero experience working in a job that you are now applying for, your chances of getting that job are also close to zero unless the employer is so desperate that they'd hire someone off the street with no education and no work experience whatsoever to do that job. But is that really where you'd want to work in the first place?
This is where the rubber meets the road when it comes to "The real world" you speak of, Punches. The fact that you think people don't care what education you have has nothing to do with the "real world" of business and employment.
TinyViolins · 31-35, M
It's so weird for me going from a family that valued education above all else, as my siblings and I are all college graduates, to spending time with my girlfriend's family that are all high-school dropouts.
I'd say that having a college degree, or multiple in my case, does open a lot of doors and make it easier to stand out from a candidate pool, but like you said, it isn't everything.
I'm slowly starting to undo my bias towards academia and higher learning in general, but when they discuss current events and their lack of education is painfully apparent, I can't help but revert back into college snob mode. Skills can be learned, empathy can be cultivated, but knowing how to effectively gather, analyze, and synthesize knowledge is sorely lacking from the world at large
I'd say that having a college degree, or multiple in my case, does open a lot of doors and make it easier to stand out from a candidate pool, but like you said, it isn't everything.
I'm slowly starting to undo my bias towards academia and higher learning in general, but when they discuss current events and their lack of education is painfully apparent, I can't help but revert back into college snob mode. Skills can be learned, empathy can be cultivated, but knowing how to effectively gather, analyze, and synthesize knowledge is sorely lacking from the world at large
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TinyViolins · 31-35, M
@swirlie Yeah, more or less. In a lot of ways it's kind of a trial by fire, which is one reason why so many drop out or flunk out in their first few semesters. Unlike high school, there is an overemphasis on studying, particularly outside of the classroom.
When you have hundreds of pages of reading material a week, as well as writing assignments or labs, you have to adapt quickly in order to organize all that information. Note-taking is almost a requirement, study groups are extremely common, libraries are usually packed, they have TAs and office hours to further assist students. The environment is highly conducive to learning, so in that sense you do learn to prioritize learning.
But ultimately your success is in your hands. Internships are usually where most college students learn the hands-on work skills in their fields, but I don't believe that they're a requirement for many majors.
Oddly enough, when I enrolled into technical school to learn a trade, the course was completely online and go-at-your-own-pace. It's mainly meant to be a gateway to an apprenticeship where the real hands-on learning is to take place.
When you have hundreds of pages of reading material a week, as well as writing assignments or labs, you have to adapt quickly in order to organize all that information. Note-taking is almost a requirement, study groups are extremely common, libraries are usually packed, they have TAs and office hours to further assist students. The environment is highly conducive to learning, so in that sense you do learn to prioritize learning.
But ultimately your success is in your hands. Internships are usually where most college students learn the hands-on work skills in their fields, but I don't believe that they're a requirement for many majors.
Oddly enough, when I enrolled into technical school to learn a trade, the course was completely online and go-at-your-own-pace. It's mainly meant to be a gateway to an apprenticeship where the real hands-on learning is to take place.
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Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
I, myself am not a drop out. I am a high school fail out.
But I also found that companies rarely even bring it up even tho I leave it blank.
It never stopped me from advancing either.
Mind you it's blue collar work in metal fabricating and machining, but I have learned to program more than a few CNC's. Not just operate and do touch offs with compensations. MIlls, drills, lathes and more.
One model I was editing in ways the guy who sold it to us and taught me how to run and program it, had never seen. But I saw it in the user manual.
My favorite teacher in school told me a lot of real life and very profound things.
One of which is that school teaches you everything they can by fourth grade.
They teach you how to learn.
After that they just try to expose you to as much as they can.
But I also found that companies rarely even bring it up even tho I leave it blank.
It never stopped me from advancing either.
Mind you it's blue collar work in metal fabricating and machining, but I have learned to program more than a few CNC's. Not just operate and do touch offs with compensations. MIlls, drills, lathes and more.
One model I was editing in ways the guy who sold it to us and taught me how to run and program it, had never seen. But I saw it in the user manual.
My favorite teacher in school told me a lot of real life and very profound things.
One of which is that school teaches you everything they can by fourth grade.
They teach you how to learn.
After that they just try to expose you to as much as they can.
Reject · 26-30, M
@Dainbramadge I love to see how you accomplished anything you wanted even despite failing out. That’s the path I want to take. I really like that last bit too! Having what’s needed as early as 4th grade, I think it’s true and realizing that takes a deeper understanding of life that many don’t have. Even to this day people are visibly upset when I tell them I dropped out. None of my employers care though so it doesn’t bother me.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Reject Actually it's you that will make it work.
Good work ethic is number one.
If your taking the job and the money than give them all you have. No shame in working hard.
I am bipolar with lots of ADHD shared traits so I have to bust ass or I will go to sleep. lOL
The other employees always hate me because I am good and fast. They ask "Trying to make me look bad?" I say no you do that well enough yourself. LOL
Never be afraid to take on more work or jobs.
Remember that's what they will see and when it comes time for promotions and raises. The guy just getting by because they get what they pay for, doesn't get promoted. LOL.
Oh and always keep your work area, desk what ever, neat and clean and organized.
It shows the boss you like things to be orderly.
Oh god. I'm babbling. LOL
Good work ethic is number one.
If your taking the job and the money than give them all you have. No shame in working hard.
I am bipolar with lots of ADHD shared traits so I have to bust ass or I will go to sleep. lOL
The other employees always hate me because I am good and fast. They ask "Trying to make me look bad?" I say no you do that well enough yourself. LOL
Never be afraid to take on more work or jobs.
Remember that's what they will see and when it comes time for promotions and raises. The guy just getting by because they get what they pay for, doesn't get promoted. LOL.
Oh and always keep your work area, desk what ever, neat and clean and organized.
It shows the boss you like things to be orderly.
Oh god. I'm babbling. LOL
hunkalove · 61-69, M
I always lied. Tell them what you think they want to hear. They're gonna lie to you. I have a B.A. in Literature. Best job I ever had was as an airport luggage handler and I said I was a high school grad.
saintsong · 41-45, F
I firmly believe that you can become rich without a high school diploma! If you make the right decisions and are capable and wise in life. Or know the right people or are at the right place at the right time!
BlueVeins · 22-25
Do you think you'll ever go back around to get your diploma?
Reject · 26-30, M
@BlueVeins You know I understand that would be nothing but beneficial and a smart decision, but I didn’t drop out by choice. I was in a residential psych ward for more than half of my senior year which put me behind on credits I couldn’t make up in time when I got back. I didn’t ask for any of that. I was forced.
I was very angry at the time and felt cheated not getting to graduate with my class. I was so upset I washed my hands of the education system of this country and told myself I never wanted to come back to it. I didn’t care how, I’d find my own way. That’s not to say I won’t ever come back if something changes that makes me need to, but I’d rather not if it can be helped.
I was very angry at the time and felt cheated not getting to graduate with my class. I was so upset I washed my hands of the education system of this country and told myself I never wanted to come back to it. I didn’t care how, I’d find my own way. That’s not to say I won’t ever come back if something changes that makes me need to, but I’d rather not if it can be helped.
School a joke
Monaschandroff86 · F
Most jobs look at quality than qualifications if you’re good enough and they like your interview skills they don’t care if you’re a high school dropout or have a disability
Wiseacre · F
U can always decide to finish highschool.
Lilnonames · F
inot graduate but hands on experience is betterwith proof
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