Protesters at UC Santa Cruz have remained on campus for about 3 weeks. “I am appalled by what Israel is doing to Palestine,” a student said Monday.

@Northwest I didn’t receive the flyer from the protesters themselves, so yes, I had to rely on what I found on line. If what I found is a fake, great! I’d appreciate a clarification from the Students for Palestine.

I’d much prefer the protesters not be for a UC boycott of Hillel. I’m glad you would object to such a stance as well. The charter of Students of Palestine isn’t going to address specific demands for one action, so I don’t find that dispositive.

I’m not trying to avoid how the protesters have affected students, even though I think I have done so in a post, but I’ve not asserted that is how I frame the issue. Maybe it’s how you do?

That being said, they are working remotely. The grad students won’t turn in their grades. That is rather disruptive to a student. I know getting credit for classes and graduating from college may seem secondary to being a college student for some, but it’s actually why many are there.

@Bumbles
What you found was something online. What I posted was the original group's charter, and that would be the group that was formed at UC Berkeley in 1993.


I don't know who they are, but you might want to google them, and you will find the Wikipedia entry.


Shockingly, you may find 2 protesters with 30 different opinions. I did not conduct a study, but I'm going to guess that the majority of students, much like those who offer opinions on SW, are much like the blind men and the elephant.

My kid's commencement was this past Sunday. There was a peaceful protest encampment, but there were different opinions from different people and they ranged from the reasonable to the totally stoned out of their minds.

The commencement itself wet without a glitch. Most students had a Palestinian flag in their hand, and handed it to the Provost as they were receiving their diplomas. Some attached a divest message to their robes. My kid opted not to partake, and we had a discussion about it beforehand. The separation between Palestinian rights and an Islamic theocracy (Hamas) was not made clear.


No you did not. Your post is another misguided attempt at "outrage sarcasm". You know, the "kids" have no idea what they're doing. It's not that hard to decode. Which gives me the chuckles. They are kids, protesting. They may be various shades of misguided, but it's not like the "outraged" people aren't acting like the whole issue was birthed on Oct 7, 2023.

And one more time, the graduate students issue, is not related to the UC Santa Cruz protests, and hardly anyone is keeping track of the millions of tweets, claiming an "official" position.

Should we consider Jerry Seinfeld a criminal from now on, because his wife hired a mob, to violently attack a group of protesters at UCLA?

@Burnley123 I was born during Tet, so when I saw those images on my parents TV I knew we'd lost the war.

@ChipmunkErnie That would be nice.

@Puppycat23 ... no such thing as Genocide happening, it's SUPPOSED civilians get'n caught in the cross fire when Terrorists hide behind children

@BigGuy2 I understand that. I’m just pointing just how ridiculous people have gotten over what’s going on in the middle east. Spray painting in big letters “CEASEFIRE NOW” on old college encyclopedias is not going to change a thing other than removal of those books since they’re now damaged.

@Northwest ... NOPE ... i place your quotes before a response, as you'll have difficulty grasping what my point is aimed at otherwise...

do you get it now ??? 🤔 ... that's a ridiculous question isn't it, because i'm conversing with you ... 🙄🙄🙄

🤪🤪🤪 ... let's see, you STILL haven't explained why i can't form a sentence ... so you're bullSHIFFING aren't you ...

...and another 3 😎😎😎

@BigGuy2
More word salad, not a rational sentence.