Should Student Loans Be Forgiven?

@Ryannnnnn and will be paying for FREE education

@nedkelly Yup. Because our kids deserve it, or is it all about us?.

@Ryannnnnn who is paying for this?

@nedkelly You and me and everyone else bud. The older people who've had time to amass wealth, people with steady jobs, the older generations. Because that's what we're supposed to do, leave a good legacy behind for the next generation.

@Ryannnnnn are you kidding me ???? why did i & the resto of the generations pay ours back ? Nobody told these little shits to amasse debt. Nobody twisted their arms to go to collage!

@pdockal So other people can't have better because we had to?.

@Ryannnnnn
better ????? How would paying for someone elses education be a better thing? i pay enough taxes for social programs & cant afford more taxes to be taken away from me. Why dont YOU pay someones loans?

My neice is paying for her own education. My nephews are paying for their own educations. They arent ammasing debt they cant handle. Why stop at student loans. Why not ALL loans. WHy not ALl mortages. Why not just make everything for free.
People make choices & have to live with those choices.

@pdockal And for the people who can't afford education?. What of them?.
If the societal messaging is for people to go to college and be educated then the society should facilitate that. And no not better for you and me, better for the next generation. That is the point, we're supposed to leave things better for them.

@Ryannnnnn
then they should go to work like everybody else ... my generation most people couldnt afford college so they got a job ... saved up & went to college if they wanted to ... I CANT AFFORD many things I want ... will you forgive my credit card debt so I can amasse things I cant afford ....

@pdockal You know that's a hyperbolic comparison. Well a lot of them do, unfortunately colleges have focused more on being a business and thus are charging extortionate rates. We either take action on the colleges or we give loans to facillitate that. Otherwise highly skilled people will be lacking in the economy and it will also dip. It would take a person maybe a decade or more considering the cost of living and wage to inflation ratio.

@Ryannnnnn
dont go to college if you cant afford it .... thats what most people do ... unless you have your fucking hand out
if people werent going then the colleges would have to reduce costs so your argument is backward
stop raising my taxes with programs that only benefit the few
NONE OF MY DEBTS were ever forgiven ... not for medical issues, not for being unemployed and i wouldnt expect that or look for that ....

@pdockal Cool who needs doctors and dentists anyway. Dude I have no power over your taxes, no need to worry haha.

But seriously, fuck what you had to do, fuck what I have to do, we've all gotta stop being so damn selfish, we're gonna be dead pretty soon anyway. Who cares.

@Ryannnnnn
there is a college who gives free tuition (yes you have to get into the program) for doctors & dentists so there goes your theory

@pdockal Okay bud

@Ryannnnnn
and you do have power over my taxes by voting for programs & politicians who implement these programs and for advocating for programs like this

@pdockal Luckily I'm not in your country so you're safe.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/01/is-it-fair-that-we-spend-so-much-helping-middle-class-children-into-adulthood

Here's an article in my country that supports your point. I'd make a concession in my point and say the government should provide said support for only those who come from low income families and are stuck in low paid jobs with low oppurtunity for progression/wage increases. I think that's fairer for everybody and makes more sense.

@Ryannnnnn
Nobody is stuck .... with hard work ANYBODY can better themselves

@pdockal Even if the average cost of education is college education is $30,000 - $50,000? sometimes that's the cost for a year. Including an extra $10-15k for room and board a year on top of that.

Seems out of reach to me man. Anyway we'll leave it at that.

@Ryannnnnn community College .... find a company who pays for your college .... GI Bill ... there are plenty of ways in my country to get it done but the people want things for free ... they want higher wages but don't want to be on time for their job etc
When i was younger if my parents could pay for things they sacraficed and got second jobs ... they made choices ....

@Ryannnnnn You apply for a home loan, are you going to pay for it or ask for the government to pay for it?

@pdockal Fair enough bud, I don't know as much in terms of what's available in America, I just want things to be good for people.

@nedkelly We're not talking about home loans, we're talking about education which benefits the economy and population. I'm done talking about it anyway.

@Ryannnnnn free isn't always good for people ....