What's your take on student loan forgiveness?

Not your political take on it, but your gut level instinct take on it.

My take on it is that we need to do something about the cost of education, consider even if there should be for profit learning institutions and if so, how can we bring the costs in line with the realities of life for those struggling (financially) to get an education.

This 10 to 20k forgiveness program is fine, even in many cases needed, but I think it should be only the first step in a radical overhaul of higher education in the United States.

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markansas

if europe can give free ed to the university level we should also. unless the republicans want a dumb class of people they can lead around by the nose.
With the cost of college continuing to rise, many Americans are turning to universities outside of the United States for their education. Europe remains a popular destination as many European countries offer free tuition at their public institutions of higher education.

samueltyler2 · 80-89, M

@markansas many of the people I speak to these days are looking into sending their children to Canadian college/universities, even for US kids, that can be less expensive than US schools.

markansas

@samueltyler2 cuba will even train a person to be a doctor for about 20k a year.. i mean CUBA
our system is broke.
https://www.cubaheal.com/postgraduate-medical-programs/

dancingtongue · 80-89, M

@markansas Thing is, we used to do it too. I went to one of the top 3 public universities in the U.S. if not the world at the time for an "incidental fee" of $50 a semester, which went for various student services. The academics were paid for by the taxpayers for the benefit of state residents and to make the state attractive to employers seeking an educated workforce. Then we entered the tax-revolt. de-regulate and privatize everything period and it has been a death spiral ever since. Now that university -- founded on the principal of free (or at least affordable) higher education for state residents with high tuition rate for out-of-state residents to underscore it was for state residents -- recruits out-of-state and foreign students for the higher tuition rates, as well as charging high tuition rates for in-state residents, and the academics spend most of their time pursuing research projects from private corporations in order to survive because the state cut off most of its funding.

samueltyler2 · 80-89, M

@dancingtongue sadly, i had a similar experience, but, at $8 per semester "general fee," and $10 per lab fee.

ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M

@markansas NO ONE gives a "free" education -- it's all paid for by taxes and Americans would have a fit if their taxes were raised to European levels to pay for college tuition. Heck, we have a fit at a 7% sales tax, can you image trying to enact a 25% national sales tax in the USA?? And then add surcharges for alcohol, tobacco, gasoline, etc.?

markansas

@ChipmunkErnie it is free to those who receive it. and yes someone or some thing pays for it . how ever if i gave you a buck that is free to you. i just paid for it.

ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M

@markansas That assumes people who go to school don't pay taxes.

markansas

@ChipmunkErnie every one pays taxs and once they are out of school they will pay even more taxs on the money they earn . if they have a high level job they will also pay even more with that higher paying job.. it benfits the poor and gives them a hand up to better life.