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SatyrService · M
so is covid a hoax?
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SatyrService Not at all! If you are elderly and have several comorbidities, you can die of it.
Covid is not the problem. (It has killed something like 0.01% of humanity)
Covid is not the problem. (It has killed something like 0.01% of humanity)
SatyrService · M
@WalterF i am glad to read this.
covid is the TIP of the problem immunologist have been having sweaty hands for years waiting for some damn lethal germ to go much farther that it would before wold travel
covid has killed a lot of folks, 8 in my own life and yeah we are sure , way more than those who may have responded to the vaccine
i for one am happy to be taking th jab, but then i got a LOT of science across my life, part of my work so i have fewer concerns about this 30+ year old technology
covid is the TIP of the problem immunologist have been having sweaty hands for years waiting for some damn lethal germ to go much farther that it would before wold travel
covid has killed a lot of folks, 8 in my own life and yeah we are sure , way more than those who may have responded to the vaccine
Point is,, We Got Lucky
imagine had it been a tropical hemorrhagic fever
imagine had it been a tropical hemorrhagic fever
i for one am happy to be taking th jab, but then i got a LOT of science across my life, part of my work so i have fewer concerns about this 30+ year old technology
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SatyrService BUT never used on an infinite number of patients... insufficiently trialled (I also work with Master level students in Clinical Research), untested for pregnant women, untested for reactions with medicines already being taken by vaccinees... A huge experiment on mankind, enforced by governments everywhere!
I never took the jab. My own immune system is fully up to the task. Doesn't need artificial help.
I never took the jab. My own immune system is fully up to the task. Doesn't need artificial help.
SatyrService · M
@WalterF Thus, under those circumstances we would’ve been 3 to 5 years from ever trying a Covid vaccine. And that first wave was very deadly. I lost two healthcare professionals in Italy at the time
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SatyrService I believe the UK (at least) already had had a pandemic preparedness plan in place, with the best reasonable and logical ways for the population to cope with this type of health threat, without destroying ordinary life and movement.
I'm not sure what medical interventions they were planning, but there was at that time no question of putting together a vaccine in a couple of months, whereas, as you say, quite a few years are needed.
So why was this preparedness plan jettisoned, in favour of the universal forced application of gene therapy to so many millions of citizens, most of whom, being well below the covid "target" age, had no need of it?
There are many many questions that have been met with silence from the media. But they need answering.
I'm not sure what medical interventions they were planning, but there was at that time no question of putting together a vaccine in a couple of months, whereas, as you say, quite a few years are needed.
So why was this preparedness plan jettisoned, in favour of the universal forced application of gene therapy to so many millions of citizens, most of whom, being well below the covid "target" age, had no need of it?
There are many many questions that have been met with silence from the media. But they need answering.
SatyrService · M
@WalterF that is particularly interesting. We also had a detailed and well supplied pandemic system designed fulfilled and in place. Unfortunately actions by various administrations and certain lawmakers prevented it from being used. Partly because it’s equipment and supplies have been diverted to other emergencies. I listen to along audio about that system what it was supposed to do and why we didn’t have it anymore. Worst of all? Just in time shipping. Warehouses are important for A reason
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SatyrService Covid was not that deadly. More people died from medical malpractice than covid. Every treatment the 'establishment' tried was killing people who had they been treated properly would have survived. As a medical doctor I know and respect explained, "you don't use a ventilator on a lung infection/inflammation". "It will likely kill the patient". You use things like steroids used to treat asthma or know antivirals like Ivermectin. He listed a whole litany of medicines and treatments that would help the sick person recover. The vax was an extremely stupid idea. It took the most deadly part of the virus and the part that most quickly mutates and injected it into the body causing the body to make its own pathogen. That is insanity bordering on mass murder. To top it off they used technology designed to get chemo drugs past the brain blood barrier. Now you have the pathogens throughout the body including the brain. The covide "crisis' is one huge tale of medical malpractice.
SatyrService · M
@hippyjoe1955 Wrong
all your "facts" are misinformation
all your "facts" are misinformation
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SatyrService WOW! IMPRESSIVE! You seem to know every single fact about the action of this so-called vaccine!
Your source for these denials?
NB References from "fact-checker" sites or mainstream media are not counted, as they are propaganda fronts for corrupt Big Pharma allied with Big Government financed by Big Conspirators to bring Big Damage to the people
Your source for these denials?
NB References from "fact-checker" sites or mainstream media are not counted, as they are propaganda fronts for corrupt Big Pharma allied with Big Government financed by Big Conspirators to bring Big Damage to the people
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SatyrService Nice try too bad you don't know what facts are. Nothing I said is proven to be false and everything I have said is now acknowledged among the honest medics in our midst. Yes there are still those doctors and their employers and governments that refuse to recognize these facts but then again if they did they would be liable for the thousands of deaths from the vax. After all those who 'misinformed' their patients about safety and efficacy since the vaxes can not be shown to be safe or effective.
SatyrService · M
@hippyjoe1955 problem is you are actually simple minded.
intricate ideas cannot fit you your brain. a small string of dubious details does not reveal the truth
You are incapable of understanding complex things.. so you grasp whatever simple explanation feeds you need to be outraged.
you do not debate,., you gibber.
intricate ideas cannot fit you your brain. a small string of dubious details does not reveal the truth
You are incapable of understanding complex things.. so you grasp whatever simple explanation feeds you need to be outraged.
you do not debate,., you gibber.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@SatyrService The problem is you can't refute anything I said so you decided to cast aspersions on my mental capacity which funnily enough you show yourself so lacking by unquestioningly following the nonsense spewed by the perpetrators of the crime called covid. Ever notice how the same government that created the virus is the same government that is doing all it can to make it seem much worse than it is so they can provide the solution that is not a solution? Funny how you still haven't even tried to refute what I said. Very strange actually.
Confined · 56-60, M
@SatyrService explain sudden death syndrome and why it is agaist the law to do
an autopsy to find cause of death?
an autopsy to find cause of death?
SatyrService · M
@Confined you have been misinformed, it is not against the law to autopsy anyone. the dubious sources for sudden death syndrome are exaggerated and do not show any familiarity with medicine or statistics..
let just let this one go shall we?
let just let this one go shall we?
Confined · 56-60, M
@SatyrService It is obvious you are way too young to understand the issue. Go back to your video game and fantasy world you live in.
SatyrService · M
@Confined im older than you are,.. "boy"