They are really pushing the latest Covid booster.

@carpediem But, but, but, there are charts and studies and science! 🤣

@Punches LOL so I’ve heard. Not a single one stopped me from getting covid

@carpediem they have never stopped people from getting Covid-19. They weren’t supposed to. They simply make it to where you won’t die from it if you do get it. I had Covid-19 once, before I was vaccinated, and it was bad. Got it again after my third vaccine and it was like a mild cold.

@Mardrae I respectfully disagree. They were designed to keep you from getting covid. The narrative of making it easier to handle was a made up story because they didn’t work. Just listen to a video of Biden stating clearly “if you get vaccinated you won’t get covid”. It was a lie from day one.

My wife and I had the original two and one booster. She almost died with covid. The vaccine did absolutely nothing.

@carpediem I am so sorry. I think the vaccines are designed to mess up our immune systems and cause us to get sick down the road. I’ve heard that the cancer rate in vaccinated people has gone way up. I developed skin cancer 2 months after my 4th vaccine.

@Mardrae I don’t doubt that at all. Good luck with your condition

@Mardrae Heard it from whom?

@Mardrae maybe u think the second time was mild because of the vaccine, but what about your immune system reacted stronger against the virus because it probably knew how to defend itself cause u already got covid once?

@Sweetpoison possibly.

@ninalanyon a couple of doctors I know. I certainly don’t know if it’s true or not- I’m no expert. All I know is that getting covid and vaccines messed me up really bad. Now I have Mast cell disease, Lichen Planus, and skin cancer. Things I didn’t have before. And I have talked to many others who have same issues as well

@Mardrae Well, of everyone I know who has been vaccinated none of them have had any side effects beyond a few days, usually just 24 hours, of feeling bruised around the injection site and a few just felt a bit 'under the weather' for a couple of days.

The vaccination rate here in Norway is over 80%, 75% have had two doses, over 55% have had three or more.

I actually know of only one person who hasn't been vaccinated.

I hope you recover quickly from your conditions.

@carpediem A lesson there for all of us. President Biden is a politician and not, as far as I know, from any professional biological or medical background; so must have misunderstood what we have always been told about infectious illnesses and vaccinations from them who know about these things.

This is that vaccines against any illness do not simply prevent the illness full-stop but confer a high degree of immunity to limit the risk of you catching it; and if you do, of being far less likely to be seriously - or fatally - ill from it. Vitally it also helps reduce the risk of you infecting others.

It is the biologists and doctors from whom we need take medical advice, but where governments need act on that advice, they do need understand it.

The problem we had in the UK was somewhat different. Here the politicians did generally understand and relay the medical advice properly, but tended to dither, caught between conflicting national economic and public-health needs.


Like me, most of my friends and relations have all been vaccinated against SARS-CoVid-19 and its brethren but a few still caught mild attacks of it. I do not know , but am fairly sure, I have not, so far at least! At least I have never caught polio, tetanus, whooping-cough, and one or two others for which I have been vaccinated.

It's curious there seems a widespread, vicious pro-Covid theme on line, some based on not understanding the difference between risk and hazard; but not ones pro these other diseases. It's not helped by politicising the situation but maybe the real driver is fear - a fear stoked by not knowing which to fear more: a few injections with low hazards and risks; or this rather strange new disease with much higher hazards and risks and here to stay.

@ninalanyon thanks. The skin cancer is of course curable, but the lichen planus and the mast cell disease is chronic, for the rest of my life unfortunately.

@ArishMell you can’t compare the covid vaccine with other vaccines. They’re different. I don’t have a problem with the covid vaccine, I’m just choosing not to take any more boosters. If they don’t stop the spread of the disease, then it is not a public health risk for an individual not to get it.. therefore it becomes the choice of the individual and that’s where it should remain.

@carpediem They differ in how they work but I am not a molecular-biologist biochemist so I don't claim to know how. My concern is that they work against virri that I do know can mutate rapidly and easily. (That for the common cold has defied all attempts to find a cure or vaccination for it.)

All highly-infections diseases are public as well as individual health risks, irrespective of how long they have been around. although with time some become less proportionately harmful. Or perhaps fatally infect proportionately fewer people.

The difficulty seem to comes with the viral ones because they mutate readily. Recently I have not only my Covid but also influenza boosters, and new to me, vaccinations for shingles and pneumonia. The nurse told me the last has been designed to protect me from some twenty-six known strains of pneumonia.

Choice is all well and good but if you become seriously ill as a result of refusing to protect yourself from that as far as possible you are not only having a pretty miserable time of it yourself, you also someone else for others to care for, and you are hazardous to other people.

@ArishMell Total nonsense. I took the flu, pneumonia and shingles vaccines. But I’ll pass in the covid going forward. The risk of taking it looks to be equal to or greater than not.

Maybe you didn’t read my earlier statement. My wife took the two shots and a booster. She then got covid and almost died. The vaccines and booster did nothing to avoid contracting it or helping with a easy case as some are suggesting.

I believe in vaccines. I don’t see the covid jab as a vaccine. The “flu shot” isn’t generally referred to as a vaccine. But I’ll contend it works far better than the covid variation in my humble opinion.

One more thing. I used to place my trust in Federal health professionals. Follow the science and all that. But after being lied to the past 2+ years that trust has been seriously eroded. To make matter worst, the mandates for a vaccine that doesn’t do what it was sold to do are proof I need to make my own decisions based on the sources I trust and my own common sense. That’s what I’m doing. That may piss some people off but I really don’t care. This isn’t political. It’s my life.

@carpediem It is where I live:
https://www.fhi.no/en/id/influensa/influenza-vaccine/

@carpediem I'm sorry to hear of your wife's problems with COVID. But why should one, very personal, experience weigh so heavily against the COVID vaccines when it appears that you accept other vaccines? They also have occasional failures.

@ninalanyon Because we were lied to about covid. And no offense, but I don’t feel the need to justify my choices to anyone except myself.

@carpediem that whole pandemic was the biggest scam and recorded history. If covid were half as dangerous as they made it out to be, we would all be dead by now. They can throw around all the so-called facts and figures they want but I think people know that it's bullshit. Kind of like how there are all these studies that every diet scam on the planet actually works.

@Punches So what is your explanation for the excess deaths in 2020..2022?

@ninalanyon ? What do you mean? People die from covid, flu, all kinds of stuff. Even from vaccines.

@Mardrae Excess deaths are deaths above the expected value when looking at the historic statistics. @Punches seems to be arguing that COVID isn't the explanation, so I wanted to know what might be her explanation for the substantial number of excess deaths.