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I think Covid is a hoax, this is not advice or false evidence it is my opinion

I believe the illness exists but I feel that the way the media and Government has dealt with it is absolutely appalling and overhyped. I don't think people should put their lives on hold indefinitely or panic.

If you can't deal with that, then that is your problem. I think big pharma has gained massively from the hysteria and the Government is trying to save face for the damage they have caused the economy.
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Foxes · F
I agree with you, but not many others will.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Foxes Not many others? Like nearly 25-40% (one in four to almost one in two) of the population (varying by country) are chugging on conspiratorial cr#p lmao
Foxes · F
@Elessar It's okay to admit that you're a fool.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Foxes Yes, in fact I haven't reprimanded either you or the OP for that. I've just corrected you on the fact that it's actually rather easy to find your peers lol
Foxes · F
@Elessar I get it, you're scared. You've seen all of this 'conspiratorial crap' and realised there's some truth to it. Your government wouldn't trick you into believing that there is an infectious disease if it doesn't actually exist, it has to be true because they said so. If they did that, what else have they lied about? You don't want to think about that.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Foxes Which government? The one we had before the pandemic, the one we had during, the one we had one year later or the one we're getting now? 🤣 I guess I've imagined the wave of inpatients at the hospital here during the first wave, I guess I've imagined the stacked caskets, heck I guess I imagined even my relatives nearly dying from it.

All this because some edgy, braindead billionaire "leader" told y'all so no less. How could even a billionaire lie to *me*? It must be everyone else! /s

There isn't a single thing that you nuts have predicted that turned out true. I personally should've died from the vaccine two years ago lmao, and instead I'm still here kicking your butts.
Foxes · F
@Elessar 5 years actually, thats how long us "nuts" predicted you will live after the first vaccination. Get the booster shots and lose another year and another, it's all a game. You can't kick my butt once you're dead.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Foxes No, no. It was months at first. Then one year. Now it's five years. Then you'll move the goalpost further and further, and when I'll die of old age y'all be like "told you, it was the covid vaxx" 🤣
Foxes · F
@Elessar If you die of old age I'll be happy for you, good for you! However, you're more likely to die of heart complications or maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones and pass in your sleep for unexplainable reasons.
Misanthropic · 26-30, M
@Foxes Don't let them drag you down to their level, I personally don't think the vaccine will kill everyone although they do have adverse effects on people, I have never read anything about a five year thing.. I would be absolutely devastated if that were true a lot people I love got the vaccinations.
Foxes · F
@Misanthropic I don't think it will kill everyone either, it would be too suspicious if it did. Most of my loved ones have had the vaccine, both young and old and I have seen their health decrease each time. Coincidence? Maybe. I just don't trust it and I don't trust the government/media when it comes to things such as this. It saddens me that people are so trusting.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Foxes Unfortunately reality has a pro-science bias . Heart complications are far more common in those who are exposed to covid itself (especially if unvaccinated, due to being more prone to a severe form) than in the vax. And logically, because the vaccine expresses a small amount of a certain viral protein, the virus expresses the very same protein (and many others) and in a much larger quantity due to exponential in-host replication.

Another thing, 90%+ of my city is vaccinated with 2 doses or more. We don't have dead people on the side of the road, or overcrowded hospitals (we had, however, when covid went rampant before vaccines were a thing).
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Misanthropic
Don't let them drag you down to their level
Spare me the "I'm better than you" card. Pursue a degree in microbiology / infectious diseases first perhaps.
Foxes · F
@Elessar Did you see these overcrowded hospitals in person, or just what was reported on the news? Because throughout this rampant pandemic, all I saw was bored nurses with nothing to do creating dances on social media.
Misanthropic · 26-30, M
@Elessar I'm not referring to your covid opinion and I'm not saying I am better than you, your behaviour however I'm not dropping to that level and would prefer people who I am more aligned with in my beliefs don't either.

I don't believe any person is better or more valuable than another
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Misanthropic Maybe then you should pick your words more carefully next time. Because "not lowering to ones level" implies you think their level is "lower" than yours. Shocking huh? And which behavior? I've been attacked first and I've responded appropriately at every iteration. it's almost like, how strange, that you have problem with someone's behavior only when they don't align with you.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Foxes Yes, I saw one personally; and I have multiple close friends who work in those facilities that were worst hit at the beginning. North-east Italy, for the record.
Misanthropic · 26-30, M
@Elessar Nobody has attacked you, well I certainly haven't. I'm not going to apologise for what I said, I know what I meant and even if you didn't I clarified after.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Misanthropic
It's okay to admit that you're a fool.
you're scared
You don't want to think about that.
Oh we have a kinda veiled death threat as well
You can't kick my butt once you're dead.

But of course you won't see any 😜

Spare me your fake "neutrality", I don't fall for your BS tactics, sadly for you.
Misanthropic · 26-30, M
@Elessar I didn't say those things and I asked foxes not to lower herself to your behaviour. By the way that wasn't a death threat that was to do with the vaccine..

I don't know what to say, I don't care if you are buying it because I am not trying to sell you anything. Grow up.
Foxes · F
@Elessar For the record, I believe covid is real. I've had it myself. The hoax is that the government and the media blew this out of proportion, it's not half as dangerous as they are making it out to be. The conspiracy is that it was used as a distraction for something else and I think so too. You're entitled to your own opinion, just as I am to mine. Just because it's conspiratorial doesn't make it any less of an opinion. Jeez, even flat earthers don't get treated this badly.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Misanthropic So my behavior, which is defending from those attacks is something the attacker shouldn't "lower" to? All this while pretending you're on some pedestal?

Perhaps you should follow your advice first. If you didn't have anything to sell this post wouldn't exist. And instead here we are.
Foxes · F
@Elessar I said those things, don't drag @Misanthropic into this just to fit your narrative.

Also, that wasn't a death threat. If I was going to make a threat against your life it wouldn't be veiled.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Foxes Ah yeah it was "overreacting", people dying of every f*cking treatable thing at home because ever hospital a every doctor in the radius of 350km was busy managing critical pneumonias is just fine lmao, back to business as usual. Sorry, as I said, reality has a strong pro-scientific bias.
Foxes · F
@Elessar The reality is that you can't see what is directly in front of you. It couldn't be more obvious if it slapped you in the face.
Misanthropic · 26-30, M
@Elessar My post isn't selling anything, I made the post because some of the malicious shit against people who do not agree with how covid has been handled and I will not allow that to stop me from saying what I believe to be true.

You replied to foxes comment first calling her beliefs conspiratorial crap.

I haven't put myself on a pedestal although I believe my behaviour to be less beligerent than yours or of those who have attacked my opinions which is often with personal insults. Anyway I'm done with you.