You’re in a pandemic, Im in Florida

@Elessar

Delta was only mildly more severe in terms of disease and one must consider the winter period of 2020-2021 as this period is always going to be associated with an increase in serious illness. In fact, had the original strain hit Europe in November-December 2019 there may well have been a higher number of deaths but we weren't affected by the virus until spring 2020 and that makes a notable difference. As for your claim of the decision to dispense with restrictions being a "populist" move that is only temporary, you will find that you are very wrong. England has always been more free and progressive in terms of its covid policy and the most recent restrictions we had were only in place for a month. Prior to that people weren't required to wear masks indoors, nor were they required to socially distance. What this latest announcement and set of guidelines is about is highlighting to the public that there will now be permanent and lasting change in how we return to normal life. This is something that continental countries in Europe won't understand because they've become extremely regressive and backwards.

Out of curiosity, why is it you insist on copying every contention I make? I suppose I will take it as a compliment but it is most unoriginal. I'm also bored of you repeating the same insults as they're really tedious and dull.

@SW-User False. The risk with Delta was significantly higher in all the measured endpoints compared to the initial strain (2-fold for hospitalization, 3-fold for ICU and 2-fold for death):
[quote]In the Delta cases, there was a 108% increase in the risk of hospitalization, a 235% increased risk of ICU admission, and a 133% higher risk of death compared with the original variant[/quote]
- [u]https://www.cmaj.ca/content/cmaj/early/2021/10/04/cmaj.211248.full.pdf[/u]
- [u]https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/delta-variant-has-235-percent-higher-risk-of-icu-admission-than-original-virus[/u]
- [u]https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00475-8/fulltext[/u]

And less remarked but still significant also with Alpha, compared to wild type (2-fold for critical care access and 1.6-fold for death):
[quote]After adjusting for covariables, primary care patients infected with the Alpha strain were 65% more likely to die by 28 days than those infected by other coronavirus lineages. The Alpha variant was also associated with a doubled risk of requiring CCU admission (adjusted hazard ratio [aHR], 2.15), but the researchers note it was not linked to death or need for organ support in those receiving critical care.[/quote]
- [u]https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/06/alpha-sars-cov-2-variant-tied-more-severe-outcomes[/u]

If anything, with the sole exception of Omicron, the trend for SCV2 is getting more severe, not milder, at least with 2 dominating variants out of 3.

[quote]England has always been more free and progressive in terms of its covid policy[/quote]
In fact we've all seen how it's going

- [u]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/07/military-deployed-at-london-hospitals-due-to-omicron-staff-shortages[/u]

- [u]https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/16/heart-attack-patient-raises-alarm-nhs-hospital-yorkshire-ambulance-service[/u]

Overseas, where they're even more "free", it seems even worse

- [u]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/overwhelmed-by-omicron-surge-us-hospitals-delay-surgeries-2022-01-07/[/u]

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Again, whatever movie you're projecting in your head is completely divergent from reality. Reiterate your strawmans, ad-hominem and "hurr durr muh freedom" as much as you want, it won't change a single thing.

Still waiting for you to provide a reference to a study that establishes all the upcoming variant post-omicron are going to be milder btw, you've lost a lot of time chatting and deflecting so far, but you've yet to corroborate your initial point. Where is the evidence for the claim you've made?

@Elessar [c=800000]The meme is very clever! [/c]

@BeefySenpie other than the one I keep as a pet, no

@GabbySA8 You're joking...or not?

@BeefySenpie really? Really?

@Elessar I can live freely, sounds like you cant?

@GabbySA8 🥱 2 years of the same cr*p, over and over, until it's a loved one getting sick and then y'all become like "plz send thoughts and prayers 🥺🥺🙏🙏🙏😭", which promptly do nothing, and said loved one becomes a statistic.

That's the only difference between Florida and elsewhere.

@NightsWatch Im in miami

@GabbySA8 Florida is Florida

@Sequoia51 no

@GabbySA8 Have a Nice Life. Sorry for bothering you.

@Krieg34645 agreed
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