The point at which you will (or may) change your mind about Covid vaccines is... ?

It seems there is a whole spectrum of decision points at which people may change their mind about covid vaccines.

Many people just get them because they're sheeple. Many people just get them because they accept everything they are told without question.

If someone has got a vaccine then regrets it how do you undo it?

Where is the 'tipping point' where a large majority will just go 'ho hum' and accept being jabbed with something that don't understand anything about?

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SW-User

It's not hard to understand. Covid vaccines will not prevent everyone from contracting the illness, but it does have a 100% success rate at keeping the illness from becoming deadly in those vaccinated, and it severely lessens the probability of the illness becoming critical. This will be the new normal. Vaccines for those who want to avoid serious illness, and those that choose to forgo it will take their chances, just like the flu vaccine, except covid is more transmissible. Covid will be part of the global landscape from here on out.

zonavar68 · 51-55, M

@SW-User 100 pct success rate? Where are you getting that stat from? The various stage 3 clinical trials showed nothing like that. Just because you do or don't have the vaccine does not mean anything because you can still get the virus, carry the virus, get sick from the virus, pass it to someone else. A vaccine *may* (no guarantee) help your body deal with an infection better. They're still all 'experimental' vaccines.

SW-User

@zonavar68 No one who's been fully vaccinated has died of the virus alone. Most vaccines are designed to [i]mitigate[/i] illness, not provide sterile immunity.

EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M

@zonavar68 it's not even hard to find that data. 🙄

[quote] How well it works: 95% efficacy in preventing COVID-19 in those without prior infection. The researchers report that the vaccine was equally effective across a variety of different types of people and variables, including age, gender, race, ethnicity, and body mass index (BMI)—or presence of other medical conditions. [b][u]In clinical trials, the vaccine was 100% effective at preventing severe disease[/u][/b]. In late March, a small CDC study that enrolled 3,950 health care personnel, first responders, and other essential and frontline workers showed the vaccine to be 90% effective upon full immunization (at least 14 days after the second dose) in real-world conditions [/quote]

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-19-vaccine-comparison

SW-User

@EuphoricTurtle Excellent source! :)

zonavar68 · 51-55, M

@SW-User Again you do not know that for a fact. The efficacy rates from stage three trials are in controlled groups, not real-world. The vaccines are not 'approved' for mainstream use - they're 'experimental'. You cannot get health insurance coverage for Covid because of that fact. Your last statement is correct - but that doesn't hold water on it's own.

EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M

@zonavar68 [quote] You cannot get health insurance coverage for Covid because of that fact [/quote]

What the hell are you talking about?

zonavar68 · 51-55, M

@EuphoricTurtle Ask any health insurance company about Covid insurance and see what response you get.

EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M

@zonavar68 what do you mean covid insurance? Insurance for what specifically?

zonavar68 · 51-55, M

@EuphoricTurtle Covid. That specifically. You can't because no vaccine is 'mainstream' approved yet. They're all 'experimental' with 'emergency use authorisation' only.

EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M

@zonavar68 Once again you're going to have to be more specific than just saying COVID. Are you talking about testing, treatment, vaccination, what are you referring to specifically?
For instance, my insurance covers COVID tests and treatment.