My doctor asked me if I was willing to take the Covid vaccine

@MrsKatherineArch Fuck normal!

Was I talking to you? @FCNantes

@MrsKatherineArch Sorry, I didn't realise your post was private...

Clearly, by posting on my answer to the question asked, you are trying to engage me in a discussion. And your immediate use of inappropriate language is reason enough for me to not have further dialogue with you. Besides, you posted your own opinion below. Please keep your comments on your own thread. @FCNantes

@MrsKatherineArch My point's that we can't afford to go back to normal. Haven't you realised yet that normal's what got us into this mess? If we revert to type, we'll just get more of this kind of shit, but much worse. :/

@Ynotisay https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/17/pandemics-destruction-nature-un-who-legislation-trade-green-recovery

On top of this, the impact of the pandemic has been excacerbated by various human failures, such as a general huge void of preparedness from China & western democracies, despite many warnings coupled with the evidence to back them, a lack of reactivity, with many of the same culprits, as well as many social issues which have increased the R number (or whatever it's called), caused by the political & economic environment we're beholden to.

None of these problems have been caused by a lack of knowledge. The knowledge has been there for decades, indicating that society needed to take a major shift. So why hasn't this happened yet? In a nutshell, it's due to greed & negligence (the source of which was often greed).

The science's there to guide us down a path to a better world. Is the advice perfect or all-encompassing? No. But that doesn't mean it isn't true.

Shouldn’t you have posted that on your thread at the outset? Instead of invading my answer with foul language? @FCNantes

@MrsKatherineArch Good question.

I reacted that way because I find the idea that we should return to normal ridiculous & harmful. At least put an asterisk on it. This's an opportunity to mobilise people to make a difference by showing them that our society's sick (without having to be that blunt), so when people fantasise about returning to normal, I'm like how are you interpreting this situation this way?

I think you feel that I've attacked you, but I was really just attacking the ideal (which I'm not sure you even support; you could've been using normal to mean no pandemic situation, rather than the rest of the normal baggage).

To answer your question, I don't think it was wrong of me to respond the way I did. Would it have been better for me to have gone into explainer mode at the outset? Idk, which's why I was happy to give into my temptations (it wouldn't be so tempting if their wasn't such a mutuality between the left wing & the PC crowd).

@Ynotisay I don't know about the link. Maybe that was pish. But the rest of what I said stands. If you want links, I can find them.

"a response is after the fact. It didn't contribute to getting us "in to this mess.""
I think we've 'defined' in this mess in different ways.
I'll rephrase: Haven't you realised yet that normal's what allowed this pandemic to put us in such a mess?

"And 'none of these problems were caused by a lack of knowledge?" Sure they were. We had no knowledge about this coronavirus, right?"
"[T]hese problems" was refferring to the problems I had listed, rather than the virus itself.

I think that clears up your objections to my argument. In any case, feel free to respond.

@Ynotisay Or you've just committed the strawman fallacy (I can send you a short explaining video, if you don't know what it is). My argument wasn't that we should make everything great. My argument was what it was, nothing more, nothing less.

In actuality, I believe my impact on human progress'll be miniscule. I'm trying my best to contribute my efforts as efficiently as possible (though I don't believe in aiming for 100%).

At your age you should've learned to not bite off more than you can chew (in this case you did so by assuming something that you didn't have the evidence to justify such an assumption).
You probably didn't even realise you had made an assumption. If this's the case, I think you should check your conclusion for assumptions before coming to it. Make sure you've the evidence to back it up.

@Ynotisay I can't say I'm surprised...

@Ynotisay *cough* denialism *cough* hypocrisy *cough*

@FCNantes sorry, but yeah, your post was rude, inappropriate, and there is absolutely no justification for that behavior. Bye now