Experts in Experimentation

Those who seem to love to experiment with disease and humans have a strange curiosity that never seems to be beneficial for humanity. Mengele and Fauci had one thing in common – they wanted to play God. Mengele was experimenting to create the perfect race and Fauci was experimenting with deliberately taking a virus from animals and manipulating it to infect humans – hence Gain of Function.

We need to petition Congress toOUTLAWunder penalty ofDEATHfor anyone engaging in Gain of Function experimentation.

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ArishMell · 70-79, M

Well, it was a dangerous pandemic! It was killing people all over the place, and putting many, many more in hospitals barely able to cope.

I didn't feel "imprisoned". Obviously it was frustrating and a bit lonely as it stopped or limited my leisure and social activities for a while, but "imprisoned"? No, if only because that was all it was doing to me.

I am very well aware there were many in far worse situations, such as stuck with young families in small urban flats; or residents in care-homes (as where one of my friends died from Covid on top of existing illness); so perhaps I should count my blessings.

It did seem strange in the first lock-down being able to cross the main road near my home without needing press the button, and I explored a lot of local highways and byways I'd not previously known despite their being within walking distance from home!

Hancock is not "guilty" in any legal sense, but I agree he was out of depth with it and may have made serious mistakes. A genuine mistake is not a matter of guilt though.

That does not exonerate the two-bit hack who sent what may well be her carefully biased selection of confidential messages to a paper too interested in sales to refuse to publish. (Though to be fair to it, she'd only have gone elsewhere, or set up her own "blog" to put them on.)

WalterF · 70-79, M

@ArishMell I'm following the Hancock affair in the Telegraph, not exactly a tabloid rag. Judgments on some of his comments from the T are severe. And with 100,000 texts / messages brought to light, that was hardly a "selective" choice?

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@WalterF 100 000.... Has the paper been given all of them or only what the journalist (?) selected.? That's the problem - this woman broke everyone's trust for her own agenda, so how can we trust her?

Besides it would be unreasonable to expect all of them to be published no matter how fairly selected.

WalterF · 70-79, M

@ArishMell I presume a person wouldn't send more than 100k messages over a year or 18 months or however long it was, so it was probably all of them?

I don't think it's reasonable to set too much store by your opinion of the revealing journalist. What is important here is not whodunnit, but rather, what was in the mind of this government minister, who was bound by his position and profession as a public servant to act in the people's best interest, and to give no orders which were not the fruit of joint reasoning and full risk evaluation, instructed by real scientists and not computer "modellers" like Ferguson, whose previous disastrous "models" predicting millions of deaths for previous health scares should have disqualified him from being given credence here.

A minister foolish enough to allow a journalist access to all his private communications does not have the right to complain (and even less, to menace her!!) when she publishes them! Such a minister loses what little confidence the public still had in him.

And following these revelations, that confidence will now be nearing rock bottom.

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@WalterF Neither of them - Matt Hancock and the journalist whose name I keep forgetting - come out of it with any credit, but I have the feeling it does not matter what they did you would attack the former Minister bitterly anyway.

You oppose everything that was done to try to fight off the Covid pandemic, and everyone doing it, but you do not say what you would have done instead.

As for him "menacing" her, that was only her hypocritical claim.

100 000 messages though. Ministers should be discussing things properly, in minuted meetings; communicating with each other and the Civil Service in proper ways, and issuing public statements formally via Parliament first where appropriate; not by using cheapskate chat-sites.