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Oh dear! Can you explain this, Dr Fauci?

[b]Didn't you say that the vaccine was safe and effective?
Oh, you don't remember having said that?
Well, your obedient servants in the mainstream media hammered that message home 24/7/365.
And now look where we are! [/b]

[i](Beginning of an article in the mainstream media The Daily Mail, allergic to all "conspiracy theories" - and allergic to any form of dot-joining)[/i]

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OldBrit · 61-69, M
*Sigh. Do I bother to try to explain how vaccines work and don't and that they don't ever stop you catching any virus they merely prepare your immune system to deal with it better. Decides its not worth my effort no fucker ever listens to science these days...
WalterF · 70-79, M
@OldBrit Science? You mean science in its new definition: no independent research, no discussion, no collaboration... just "THE Science".

You can keep that for yourself. Doesn’t interest many of us. Too open to abuse, enforcement, violation of bodily rights...
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@WalterF
Quod erat demonstrandum.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@OldBrit Nothing demonstratum here (note the change from the gerundive to the past participle, meaning "demonstrated" as opposed to "to be demonstrated," as in QED), other than that your mind is totally CLOSED.

Why on earth should you blame those of us who extend our research, and refuse to prostrate ourselves before the media and its one-note alarmism?

Are you jealous because you have simply lost the ability to THINK FOR YOURSELF?
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@WalterF no I just worked over most of my career in medical research
Confined · 56-60, M
@OldBrit There is ZERO proof that the vaccine did anything other then kill people.
We were told if you got vaxed, you would not get covid. We were told if you got vaxed NO hospitilizarions. we were told if you got vaxed it was impossible to spread covid. Which of those statements are true???????????????????????
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@OldBrit It would seem to me that you didn't learn much while doing that research. Not trying to be cruel but any vax that has that high a failure rate and that high a danger signal should never have been used on the general public. I read an article from a Canadian publication that said the vaxes were never actually tested before they were injected. They were using the general public as lab rats. Sadly it seems those most indoctrinated into the 'medial goodness of vaxes" are the ones who refuse to observe the facts on the ground. The vax is killing more people than the virus all the while not preventing the virus from spreading. In fact those who are jabbed are more likely to get the disease than the unjabbled. The jabbed are also more likely to be hospitalized and even die from the virus than the unjabbed. This medical 'miracle' has been a complete bust and only the true believers cling to it.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 again *sigh *

It is intended, designed, and proven to "reduce hospitalisations, severe illnesses and deaths".

Covid-19 is by definition a high contagious highly infectious disease. So you get an awful lot of it about so a lot of people get ill, and regardless some will still be hospitalised and die.

But the vaccine is proven (look at death rate spikes in countries like the UK.

So flu. We've had flu vaccine for years. Still have flu outbreaks and deaths. Because a vaccine never stops you catching it only for the majority helps you fight it
Confined · 56-60, M
@OldBrit again the covid vaccine has done nothing. There is still zero proof it did anything.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@Confined
Explain to me

A) how you come to that conclusion, with data from reputable sources.

B) why it has "done nothing" again reputable medical based research publications to be given as source material
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@OldBrit Which data from which reputable source. It kind of depends on the day. At the outset of the scamdemic the data (computer models) showed that we were a doomed species as the virus would surely kill us all. Then reality started to set in and as more time elapsed it became clear that few people were being killed by the virus. Now the data is showing that the vax is killing more than the virus and those who are vaxed are far more likely to get the virus, be hospitalized with the virus and even die from the virus. The elephant in the room is the FACT that they unvaxed are not dying, are not in hospital and not getting sick. I had covid. It was a mild cold. My vaxed employee got covid and 6 weeks later could barely walk. Amazing how data is manipulated isn't it?
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